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Anonymous:
"I can list 10 so called "facts" that I have read on this board that are short parts of the truth taken and twisted around to make it HORRIBLE!"
I am interested to know what 10 things you found to be short parts of the truth.
Anonymous:
Try to change their experience?? Isn't that what you are doing for my and supporters of the program? Trying to tell us that what we think is bullshit? and even if the program is working for us- because it didn't work for you then somehow we are not educated.. Or we haven't been exposed enough?
You didn't answer my question about what your problem with Cross Creek is. I am suppose to go back through all the posts and try to figure out who said what? Everyone is posting anonymous so that clearly makes it difficult for me to figure out exactly what your upset about within the program.
Can you take 5 minutes and tell me why CC is so horrible?
I'm not trying to change anyone's experience. I got on this board this morning and it just drove me crazy to read things like "they tell you your parents hate you".. If you are familiar with the program you know they don't do that.
Anonymous:
For the person asking for the 10 things.. Did you not read my novel of a post??
Please go back and read it. There are a number of things I point out that are good examples of how a little truth is twisted around to become a big lie.
Anonymous:
Okay did you know that sometimes during therapy sessions the kids are told their parents don't want them? Yes I understand this is hard to believe however As stated in my other post I witnessed the session as I sat in. I remember sitting there (this is after 10 months and all three seminars in the program)not wanting to say anything in front of my daughter as I didn't want her to use it to manipulate me later however addressed it with the director directly after. Not all therapists have an education to be working with people as a therapist. I once did not believe this either however it was my experience.
I did get her therapist changed after this and the next one was much better however that doesn't stop the fact that the first one was such and idiot in her rantings. Later the FR admitted knowing the relationship between my daughter and the therapist was not a working one. Why was that not addressed with the morning meetings with the Director? Why let a kid sit the first 10 months in a non working relationship and do nothing until the parent steps up? I was told from the beginning they never let a kid get comfortable and sit like this however it happens. It was a waste of the tuition for that time as it only pushed her farther the other way. It was not beneficial nor was it giving what they say it would. In fact every girl within this particular group was having the same issues with the therapist. That to me is a big red flag. Things like this if addressed will make the program different than what it is.
Group sessions: Well they have those every day. It was my experience that in order to move to the upper levels some girls would manipulate a "story" about another girl. This would advance them as "looking like" they were working their program and the other girl would recieve the consequences for her lies. I witnessed this behavior during a group session I attended.
Different staff members gave different cats. Most the time the kids know the rules better than the staffers. CCM had a large overturn of staffers during the 2 years my daughter attended. Also FR's are not made to attend the seminars and neither is the staff. It is my feeling that they should be required to do so as you can not preach what you do not know.
Yes I do think my daughter gained tools from the program however I know it is not a perfect situation and if things were addressed vs. sweeping it under the carpet or calling it a disgruntled parent things could change. Until then things will continue to happen over and over and the teen and parent will suffer.
Change is good no matter if your a teen, a parent, or a WWASP employee/school.
Deborah:
Anon program supporter,
Are you seriously worried that another person will be able to brainwash you into believing ?what you think is bullshit??
You don?t have the power to change other?s experiences, but you did jump on this forum this morning and accuse other posters of lying:
?I can list 10 so called "facts" that I have read on this board that are short parts of the truth taken and twisted around to make it HORRIBLE!
Number one: This is the biggest bullshit on the board. "kids are told thier parents hate them" That is the farthest thing from the truth that there is???
You accuse others of lying then whine that they are trying to change your experience, when they rebut what you have stated as truth.
Many parents/family with experience speak out on this forum, and would be speaking on the BBS if they weren?t banned. They are speaking their truth, and have a right to do so, even if it threatens your current beliefs.
Then you said: I got on this board this morning and it just drove me crazy to read things like "they tell you your parents hate you.***
If it drives you crazy reading that it might be possible, imagine how you might feel to later find out that it IS true. You can not say with absolute certainty that is doesn?t happen. The fact is, you are not there 24/7 and do not have a clue what is or isn?t said to your child.
And this is the best and most revealing thing you said: ?If you haven't been part of the program and you are posting based on crap you have read on the internet - keep your crap to yourself- I don't even want to hear it. But if you have ligitimate questions you would like answered- I will answer them.?
First, It?s pretty damned arrogant of you to come to a public forum and tell others to keep their ?crap? to themselves, because ?you don?t want to hear it?. Change your browser. No one is force feeding you information. Your child IS being force fed. No one is trying to ?change your experience?. Only you can do that.
Second, Four months in the program and you are an expert? How are you qualified to answer all questions about the program posed by the public? Will you refer to your parent manual for answers? Or zip over to the BBS and ask how you should respond? Or are you a staff member posing as a parent? Hard to know? as you too post anonymously.
I think this is more program ::spam::
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