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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2005, 11:37:00 PM »
My daughter was at Island View for most of last year. After she "graduated" in the test phase, it took her all of two weeks to go back to her old behaviors.  Nothing anyone can tell me will make me believe that this place does any good for the kids who go there. Her therapist never responded when I asked for help after she left. I guess since I wasn't paying them, no one cared any more. Anyone who wants to email me personally about her experience there and mine may do so.  No one should send their child there, it is all a lie.  They prey on desperate parents.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2005, 01:08:00 AM »
This might sound sardonic, but I'm glad she returned to her old behaviors.

Why? It means she was not broken or brainwashed! It means shes a lot better off inside than a lot of children locked up in these places.

If you want advice from a PARENT whose dealt with this without a program, and FYI has been in a program as a teen, send a PM to "Antigen".

As far as your daughter goes, tell her youre sorry for Island View and give her some support and offer her therapy. Dont push pills or therapists. Something antigen learned and tries to tell us is that kids tend to do better if they do things of their own free will.

Why did you send her off anyway? What are her 'behaviors'? Could she stop by the forum and say something about Island View herself?

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2005, 09:21:00 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2005, 08:51:00 PM »
I went to island view from march 19th 04 to nov 19 05, and all u guys can sit there and talk shit but that place saved my life adn the lives of so many people i no .. and if it was THAT bad for u then that sez a lot about who u are. only the weak look back and say it was bad. im a better person today adn to sit back adn talk shit would be a waste of time and obviously a waste of yours. so stop being ignorant assholes and own up to teh experience and accept aht its probably what you needed and if in truth it did nothing for you then grow up adn drop it, you dont need to sit there years later adn continue to bitch... hello? and im also at the oakley school rite now and for those of you that say thats shit then thats ur issue too.. becuase like i said only the strong get something out of it and the pathetic ones that sit on their ass and dont do shit are teh ones that are really at a loss... u people are soo pathetic...
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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2005, 01:42:00 AM »
I want to know how Island View saved anyone's life.  How would you have died if you didn't go to Island View?
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« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2005, 04:22:00 AM »
Why don't you girls go on and "get a life" of your OWN, and get back to us in about 10 years.  

Sure, after 5 years you may be feeling like something wasn't quite right about the program.  But after 10 years + that "minor in psychology", you should be able to offer us an informed and well-rounded synopsis of your program experience, based on facts rather than your shell-shocked perspective.

You may think what I'm saying is nonsense or "bullshit", but really, I was once in your shoes!   When you start getting nightmares and feeling anxious all the time (which will be within a few years), come back to this forum and read about PTSD.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2005, 05:19:00 AM »
Drug overdose. Suicide. AIDS...
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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2005, 05:18:00 PM »
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"I went to island view from march 19th 04 to nov 19 05, and all u guys can sit there and talk shit but that place saved my life adn the lives of so many people i no .. and if it was THAT bad for u then that sez a lot about who u are. only the weak look back and say it was bad. im a better person today adn to sit back adn talk shit would be a waste of time and obviously a waste of yours. so stop being ignorant assholes and own up to teh experience and accept aht its probably what you needed and if in truth it did nothing for you then grow up adn drop it, you dont need to sit there years later adn continue to bitch... hello? and im also at the oakley school rite now and for those of you that say thats shit then thats ur issue too.. becuase like i said only the strong get something out of it and the pathetic ones that sit on their ass and dont do shit are teh ones that are really at a loss... u people are soo pathetic...

katie -copper team"

You must be REALLY "shell shocked."  You say you were there thru Nov./05, and that hasn't even happened yet.

Sounds like you're thinking clearly...not.
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« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2005, 05:46:00 PM »
Or maybe it's a clue? Take a look at The Oakley School
http://www.oakley-school.com/home.html

Poor kid can't say, and might not even know herself, what she really thinks.

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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2005, 05:53:00 PM »
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On 2005-07-31 17:51:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I went to island view from march 19th 04 to nov 19 05, and all u guys can sit there and talk shit but that place saved my life adn the lives of so many people i no .. and if it was THAT bad for u then that sez a lot about who u are. only the weak look back and say it was bad. im a better person today adn to sit back adn talk shit would be a waste of time and obviously a waste of yours. so stop being ignorant assholes and own up to teh experience and accept aht its probably what you needed and if in truth it did nothing for you then grow up adn drop it, you dont need to sit there years later adn continue to bitch... hello? and im also at the oakley school rite now and for those of you that say thats shit then thats ur issue too.. becuase like i said only the strong get something out of it and the pathetic ones that sit on their ass and dont do shit are teh ones that are really at a loss... u people are soo pathetic...

katie -copper team"


Perhaps you would be more comfortable posting on the Struggling Teens discussion board?  Seems to me there are some parents who sent their kids to Oakley and Island View posting ad nauseum about their "success" in raising their kid in a therapeutic community.

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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2005, 06:58:00 PM »
How do you know who sent their kids to Oakley and/or Island View?  No program names are mentioned.
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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2005, 09:11:00 PM »
Back in the days before ST adoped their self-censorship policy ... parents talked freely about their kid's progress (or not) in various (gasp) named programs.

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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2005, 04:32:00 PM »
HI everyone,
I was a resident at Island View RTC for thirteen months between 2000 and 2001. I was sent there for skipping school, experimenting with drugs, and sneaking out of the house- normal teenage stuff, right? It all started when I was woke up in the middle of the night by teo "escorts" who explained that they were taking me to s special school for a while. I was too sleepy at the time to put up a fight, but in retrospect I should have run away from them right then- I had no idea the hell I was about to be put through. When I arrived at Island view I was placed on the green team. My therapist was Seth Geisler, and our team director was Jennifer VanBuskirk.I felt that their purpose was to use whatever means necessary (seclusion, sensory deprivation) to brainwash me into subscribing to their golden way of life. I had many takedowns, sometimes for just making rude comments. I was hummiliated, strip searched, locked in the "time out room" (one of three prison cells they had at the time, before I left they built yet another one!). I was also made to sit at my desk staring at a white wall all day everyday for weeks. At this point I had no hope. I dreampt up elaborate "escape plans" of how to get out of Island View and live my life on the run. I wished for god to kill mr everynight as I lay in bead waiting for the heavy tranquilizers to send me to a better place, untill the rooster came around to yell and flip on the bright flouresent lights at 6 in the morning. Since arriving at Island View my behavior and grades reached an all time low. They transfered me to purple team near the end of my stay because I had become a "negetive peer".I felt imprisoned and hopeless and didn't even try in school. I tried to daydream the days away to briefly escape from that terrible place. To this day I have nightmares that I'm still locked up in that place, in the tiny, cold timeout room wigth the door locked. I remember being tackled by huge clean cut mormon "houseparents". Their primary purpose was to serve as guards so that no one could escape. I could go on forever about what a terrible place that is but there isnt space or time. I would be interested in communicating from anyone else on green team or any other former residents with similar experiences.
Dustin- Green/purple team
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2005, 05:03:00 PM »
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"HI everyone,

I was a resident at Island View RTC for thirteen months between 2000 and 2001. I was sent there for skipping school, experimenting with drugs, and sneaking out of the house- normal teenage stuff, right? It all started when I was woke up in the middle of the night by teo "escorts" who explained that they were taking me to s special school for a while. I was too sleepy at the time to put up a fight, but in retrospect I should have run away from them right then- I had no idea the hell I was about to be put through. When I arrived at Island view I was placed on the green team. My therapist was Seth Geisler, and our team director was Jennifer VanBuskirk.I felt that their purpose was to use whatever means necessary (seclusion, sensory deprivation) to brainwash me into subscribing to their golden way of life. I had many takedowns, sometimes for just making rude comments. I was hummiliated, strip searched, locked in the "time out room" (one of three prison cells they had at the time, before I left they built yet another one!). I was also made to sit at my desk staring at a white wall all day everyday for weeks. At this point I had no hope. I dreampt up elaborate "escape plans" of how to get out of Island View and live my life on the run. I wished for god to kill mr everynight as I lay in bead waiting for the heavy tranquilizers to send me to a better place, untill the rooster came around to yell and flip on the bright flouresent lights at 6 in the morning. Since arriving at Island View my behavior and grades reached an all time low. They transfered me to purple team near the end of my stay because I had become a "negetive peer".I felt imprisoned and hopeless and didn't even try in school. I tried to daydream the days away to briefly escape from that terrible place. To this day I have nightmares that I'm still locked up in that place, in the tiny, cold timeout room wigth the door locked. I remember being tackled by huge clean cut mormon "houseparents". Their primary purpose was to serve as guards so that no one could escape. I could go on forever about what a terrible place that is but there isnt space or time. I would be interested in communicating from anyone else on green team or any other former residents with similar experiences.

Dustin- Green/purple team

AIM: Skyyyhigh420

Email: www.isaccorp.org)-- they're an organization that investigates abusive treatment centers/schools for teens.
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« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2005, 05:19:00 PM »
Thanks, I'm going to send them an email. I have nothing to gain by exposing Island View for what it really is, not how it is portrayed on the rosy website or the brochure, but what happens behind it's closed (and locked) doors. The consequences of places like this live on in the minds of the victims who were traumatized, and still are by these "treatment facilities". Another thing Island View charged $6,000 a month for these services when I was there, anyone who thinks that these people do what they do for anything other than money is fooling themself.
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