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Anonymous:
No Ginger, it really isn't fairly clear, not at all, not to me. You've said that you think ken had nothing to do with it but then, usually in the same post, you say something filled with innuendo that leads us to believe that you at least think he did.
You're really confusing me and from what I have read you are also confusing many other people. Please Please Please settle it.
What I'd like is a direct answer. Maybe one word. Do you think Ken had anything at all to do with your current legal problems? Yes or No?
Ginger said:
"No, actually it was the anon flooder who claimed to be Nazi who brought up Ken's intention to take down these fora.
It's fairly clear, isn't it? that Ken doesn't like these fora, doesn't want people posting here and would like for them to just go away. That goes back years. Maybe it's just a big swingin' dick contest to him. I don't know. Maybe it's this Nazi guy just making shit up about he or Ken taking them down. I don't know. "
Anonymous:
WWASP is afraid of the truth getting out there so they threaten to sue,sounds like corruption to me. If we had just stuck with trying to help the kid's, perhaps this wouldn't be happening.
Anonymous:
Ginger,
Take a deep breath and realize the truth in on your side. Many are watching, but the bottom line is, this site is important. Let people file suit as they will. This is an opportunity can?t you see it? This will workout in the end. Even if you have to represent yourself, you can. You have the ability. Your smart and all of us believe in you. If people can help with money please do. BUT DON?T EVER FORGET THIS SITE HAS HELPED MANY!
Keep your chin up Ginger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMERICA WANT?S TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT ABUSE!
EXPOSE THE CHILD ABUSERS?????
LET THE TESTAMONY ON YOUR SITE SPEAK FOR ITSELF!
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Anonymous:
Which Ken are talking about? I see mention of a Ken on the Elan forum. Ken WHO?
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-01-01 15:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
What I'd like is a direct answer. Maybe one word. Do you think Ken had anything at all to do with your current legal problems? Yes or No?
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Absolutely not, just as I've said several times already. The lawsuit comes from Sue Scheff and PURE. The letters to my provider are coming from WWASP. WWASP is suing PURE. They are not friends. But neither side wants anyone discussing them outside of their control.
I do wonder if there's something to the notion that he may sue at some point. Back when I used to post to his forum, years ago, he made it very clear that I was not welcome there. I was primarily asking questions about Concept by way of comparisons to Program. He did not like that, not one little bit!
Over the years, I keep hearing from various people that Ken tries pretty hard to discourage ppl from posting to these fora.
More recently, I get a rumor from Nazi that Ken's trying to set me up somehow. Then Ken writes to me privately saying that Nazi's trying to set me up. Then this person posts anon saying that Ken's got what he needs, i.e. "this site's number". And, in another post, this same person (or someone in the same room) cops to being Nazi.
What would you make of all that? Know what really seemed to get his goat? Dee's posting details about events that she witnessed at Elan when Ken was on staff. For months prior, ppl were posting just sheer bullshit, juvenile rants and pranks, some about Ken. He didn't seem to notice. Really, some ppl were offended, but most just wrote it off as sick, childish humor. Never a peep out of Ken, that I know of, nor Marty or Claire or anyone else. Then, all of a sudden, two old friends meet up who can coroborate each other's stories and, suddenly, Ken's very, very interested.
Was he Anon #42 (all but the most recent 10 of posts by Expediter-Trainee)? I honestly can't say for sure. Why don't you ask him?
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid
of the dark. The real tragedy of life is
when men are afraid of the light.
--Plato
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