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ehm:
It doesn't stop here though.




Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose, and you allow him to make war at pleasure. Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect, after having given him so much as you propose. If today he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him,--"I see no probability of the British invading us"; but he will say to you, "Be silent: I see it, if you don't."
--Abraham Lincoln
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Deborah:
Ginger wrote: I'm sure they wouldn't expose their business and customers to any unreasonable risk out of affection for me.***

I don't understand this comment, would you elaborate on how they might expose their business and customers to unreasonable risk by continuing to host you?

What good is the disclaimer stating that you are not responsible for what others post, if indeed they can force you to delete messages or shut you down. Why aren't they going after the people who posted the "offensive" material. How could such an action not violate free speech?

This forum is valuable to parents who want to hear the good, bad and ugly about programs. How could they force the removal of the entire forum because they don't like what was said about themselves or their program?

Or, are you saying the forum would go down if, and only if, you couldn't fund a legal defense, if it were to come to that?

Antigen:

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Or, are you saying the forum would go down if, and only if, you couldn't fund a legal defense, if it were to come to that?"

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That's exactly what I'm saying. It's already come to that, according to Mr. Pollack. A suit has already been filed and an emergency injunction requested. I don't have the details yet. I should be getting the docs within a few days.

I agree that this forum is a valuable resource for anyone interested in the troubled parent industry. It's like this. If I can pull together adequate funding and talent to defend against this suit, I will. If I can't, I won't. I will not martyr myself and my kids. Sorry.

But I'm not the only geek on the planet who can operate a web forum. It's taken around 6 years for anyone to build up a big enough steamhead to actually file suit. Ya'll should seriously look into becoming well informed information services consumers. Pick a geek who is less vulnerable, either by virtue or their geography or business arangements, and see if they'd like to replace this forum just for shits and giggles. Or learn about how to use Usenet newsgroups. Some years ago, Wes tried to set up a newsgroup on this very topic, but there wasn't sufficient interest or understanding of the issue at the time. Now there is. Hell, there might already be an animated discussion going on over there right now and none of us have stumbled accross each other yet.

Bottom line, wrong as it is, given enough incentive and $$$$$, anyone can use the courts to torture anyone they don't like. That is what people generally mean when they talk about our beautiful nation's slow slide from the standard of liberty and justice for all to the pathetic snitch culure  we see today, with liberty going to the highest bidder and justice a cruel joke.


Hear me people: We now have to deal with another race - small and feeble when our fathers first met them, but now great and overbearing. Strangely enough they have a mind to till the soil and the love of possessions is a disease with them. These people have made many rules which the rich may break but the poor may not. They take their tithes from the poor and weak to support the rich and those who rule.
Chief Sitting Bull, speaking at the Powder River Conference, 1877
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Deborah:
So, why can't the "offensive" material be deleted or edited? Why must the entire forum go down? There is mucho information here that is not relevant or offensive to P or W.
We've Been There kept some of their forums, including one on WWASP.

Antigen:
Well, I don't know. That may be an option. I'll have to read the complaint.

But then there's this other issue of ppl sending threatening letters to my service provider, demanding anything from deleting a few posts to their giving me the bum's rush.

My aim in all of this is to just take advantage of the natural ordered chaos that is the net. This could backfire in a very big way. They can break their arms patting themselves on the back over shutting down or censoring this forum. Meanwhile, dozens of others might spring up like dandilions in springtime.

Even if I have to take something off of the public server, I've still got it. If anyone wants me to forward their contact info to some individual, I'm pretty sure I could do that. If I get crushed w/ such requests, I'll probably just write a script to automate the process for you.

That's what we do here at Fornits Workshop. We come up with simple and effective technical solutions to internet communications problems.
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Janis, Jimi, Jerry, Timothy... Do you HAVE to get this close to the edge to get a really good view?
-- Anonymous

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