Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Seed Discussion Forum
My Parents
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-28 12:26:00, Antigen wrote:
"Actually, AnonAnon was a poke at my brother. Before it morphed into what it is today, it was going to be a satiracle thing. The intro at the top used to say something like "Anonymity Anonymous, help and support for people who've become dependent on support groups." I even entertained the idea of running those free classified ads in local papers announcing AnonAnon meetings at a local Dennys on the evening of April 1st just to see if anyone would show up.
--- End quote ---
I always understood that from the first time I saw it. Many people in 12 step programs cannot see their compulsion has just switched to the group.
Example. I just met a guy the other day in an airport. He told me he was a recovering addict. I said "really, I was in drug treatment at a very young age..tell me..what were you addicted to"
He said "many things..I was dying and had been in jail..my addiction was killing me" and then the expected "all my old friends are now either dead or in jail".
I said "that is interesting, what exactly were you addicted to" He then changed the subject to treatment. Later on, he said that he hadn't "Used" since the late 70s early 80s and that he drank and like qualudes (who didn't???). I really sensed that this guy had never been addicted to anything but just had made bad choices and found a group somewhere to think for him.
Addiction treatment is serious and if done properly a valuable thing.
Addiction treatment, done improperly or forced upon non-addicts is a travesty.
Addiction treatment addicts that fabricate their prior "addictions" are a joke...and way to common.
Cops; you wake `em up you gotta dance with `em. They lead.
-- Jack McNulty
--- End quote ---
Anonymous:
Oh. sorry Mncutties, whoever you were. Geez, that little tirade really showed more about you than it did about me. ill stay outa here, that's for sure. I MADE A BIG MISTAKE. Please either accept or don't accept my apologies, I really don't give a shit. I shd have never even opened this thing up and I never will again. I promise. Not take ME off your hate list. Like i said, that email was intended for a family that I new was in the Seed in st pete and I wrong wrong wrong......You know, people are wrong alot of the times. It's just too bad when they aren't strong enough to admit it.
Signed. The sorry ass person who wrote all that nonsense last night. It just dug up ghosts for me too. Who ever I offended, forget it and get on with your lives, just like i am.
Antigen:
But now I'm dying to know who this other family is and if we're close kin to mine. Aside from the location and the bit about money, you're dead on about the rest of it. Well, I suppose I'm probably less than objective about the notion that I was ever the smartest. (lol)
No offense taken, buddy. Honest. The ones I know tend to bring out the worst in me too.
Of all the enemies to public liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other.
--James Madison
--- End quote ---
GregFL:
HA. If you think that was the worse offense ever on one of these message boards...I have been called every name in the book, especially on the old forums that are now archived. And the funny thing about your little tirade is it did ring some bells in Ginger's situation, she really does have a family that resembles SOME (not all) of the things you were saying. No harm no foul..
Listen, welcome to our forum. Thank you for taking the time to log on and give a shit. Most people are too scared or just don't care. There is a story in here that we would like you to hear and Ginger alluded to it, and that is, these bastards are still at it and are deeply entrenched in the decisions being made at drug policy level in this country. This isn't a 30 year old nightmare that went away, it is a nightmare being lived out today by kids in places all across this nation and now abroad as the criminals have found out that it is easier to abuse american kids in places where the laws may be a little more lax. And would you be surprised to know that today, on Orange blossom trail in Orlando...kids still sing Seed songs, talk on open mike, Motivate and talk the same bullshit us seedlings talked 30 years ago? Hard to believe but true...log onto that site anon anon you hit before and view the video on SAFE Inc. Be forwarned, You may feel the urge to throw up...
We are hear to lend a hand to those damaged and to spread the word that it is still going on. That is our sole purpose and You are welcome here anytime.
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will [America's] heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
--John Quincy Adams, Speech to the U.S. House of Representatives [July 4, 1821]
--- End quote ---
GregFL:
--- Quote ---On 2003-10-27 20:33:00, Anonymous wrote:
"and by the way, did any of the Hobby kids get out of this thing alive or fairly unharmed?
The last time I saw phil was in the early 80s. We ran into each other at bar and got shitfaced drunk and coked out. Hope they found real recovery. I liked them and wish them well. Just how involved in this mess did their parents become? the mother was a drunk, swigging gin from the bottle at noon as she chain smoked Salems and screamed at her kids. Sorry to talk bad of the dead, but she was a
screeeeeaaaammmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (sorry phil)
"
--- End quote ---
no personal knowledge, but found this on the classmates.com website:
From: TROY THOMASON 1978 Aug 17 2002 1:32:15PM
To: KAREN GEE 1976
(8) Class of 76 or77 (in reply to 2)
OK, had to reply, even though I'm too young for your parameters.
Aww the Oyster Bar, Nepa Hut,,,,,,,
Scott C*** is K9 Marine Patrol in South Florida, Ft. Lauderdale area, I beleive!
Chuck ***** is in charge of Pinellas EMS system, and just won a statewide award, for being the best administrator. We educated him in our hunt club!
That's about all I know about right now, that was on your list. Oh Yeh, Steve and Tish Hobby are my brother-in-law / sister-in-law. They are our neighbors on the beach, too. I married Tish's little sister, Mary Ann (Carrier).
To say the drug war is a failure is like saying the Hindenburg was short a few fire extinguishers.
Carl Hiassen
--- End quote ---
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version