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My Parents
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2002-06-14 19:56:00, MommaDebi wrote:
For some reason this posted more than once, but each time telling me there was aproblem... and that it would not post...amazing! LOL
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[ This Message was edited by: MommaDebi on 2002-06-14 20:01 ]
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Yeah, I had the same problem. But only in this thread.... I'll try to figure it out and will post any info about it in the web forum hosting forum (any time you find something funky, please post there or send email to support@fornits.com Don't worry, it's tech support, not therapy or anything :wink:)
As far as posts going in anonymously when you put in a username and password, that can happen if you typo the username or password or if you don't have cookies turned on. Everyone's welcome to post here without cookies. Just leave the username and password blank and sign your posts however you want to in the body.
Anonymous:
I know I shouldn't, but I just can't stop myself: this is too sad......but also funny....
MCNUTTIES: I'm a ghost from your past who lives in another state now and has forgotten all about your weirdo family and the seed and all that crap until I came across CLASSMATES.COM and then wandered to this page because I think I knew Greg quite well from Lakewood, though I can't be sure. I recognize his name, and he seems like he's healed from his childhood trauma and I may even email him personally to tell him how happy I am for him
BUT YOU PEOPLE!
Hell, I wouldn't even go near your neighborhood.
I was never taken to the seed. MY parents would NEVER have done something so draconian and drastic to a 13 or 14 year old. But I watched sadly from the sidelines as many of my good friends went to the brainwashin warehouse and came out looking as spooked as concentration camp victims. And no wonder. That fucking seed swept through town like the Nazis rounding up Jews in Poland.
Frankly, I wasn't one to harrass anybody that had gone to the SEED or to STRAIGHT. I felt that you'd endured enough torture. I saw the hollow eyes and terror on your faces. I wished there was something I could have done to help. But it was your fucking FAMILY THAT PUT YOU IN THAT PLACE.
I knew you people before AND after the brainwashing machine, and nobody changed one bit in my opinion: You were fucked up before, just rotton little rich kids, bitch and moan. moan and bitch.....never doing anyting productive like taking advantage of the good education your dad provided you at all those private schools.
Nah, you all were too spoiled, and had it just TOO DAMN GOOD. I knew your family well enough to know to stay far, very far away, so that I wouldn't be swept up in the MCNUTTIE MADNESSS.
You know, of course, that that's what even your friends called all you siblings. You were the laughing stock of every school you attendedg. and I know, because I was there!
And now, it seems, the McNutties haven't changed one bit despite decades and one of you going into a 12 step program, which I too belong too.
NOW YOUR TAKING YOUR BITCHIN AND MOANING OUT IN A PUBLIC FORUM BECAUSE EVERYOINE HAS BLOCKED THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES. FOR heaven's sake, stay away from each other if you people are so toxic to each other.
I knew your family and I always marvelled at how fucked up everybody was. ALL those kids. the weirdo mother. the jackass alcoholic father. I had your number by the time I was 12. I followed your sick family through several schools. And I can only say this
MCNUTTIES: PEOPLE, this was 30 years ago....Apparently those brainwashing programs either worked too well, or didn't work at all because you people are STILL AS CRAZY AND FUCKED UP AS YOU WERE AS KIDS!!
Ive only got one more thing to say and it's serious:
MCNUTTIES BOYS AND GIRL: LOOK AT YOUR CHILDREN. DO you want this nonsense to tranfer to them? because it will. You all have a great chance to break the self destructive tendencies that I ALWAYS saw in your family. But is anybody delivering? It doesn't seem so.
Thom, good for your for getting sober in a 12 step group. But haven't you been around long enough to know that you can't control crazy people, espeically when they're in your family.
Ginger: DO whatever you want. You always were the smartest of them all. ALl your brothers reminded me of sheer stupiity. I figured your family got rich through some means of illegal means, because all of you were to stupid to do it the normal way.
MCNUTTIES: I find this hysterical, and this is the BEST laugh I've had in a long time, chancing across this post and seeing that your people are just as fucking mean and rotten as you were as kids.
Taking after Daddykins, I guess.
I just know: He's proud as hell, and he's just a cussing away....
Signed: Someone who knew you people way too well and knew better than to get too close.
kaydeejaded:
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If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
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Anonymous:
I posted the mcnutties email a few hours ago and feel like i need to clarify one thing. I knew ALL of you from somewhere, in some school, one way or another. none of that rant was intended for anyone but the McnUtties. I knew them all too well, and they're still up to their old games. Ginger may be a key player in this post, and I'll probably not come back here, because I don't share the common bond of being abused in those programs, though many of us who DID NOT GO were wounded and confused as well.
Shit, we were kids in a big man's scam.
I'm sorry to come down so harsh on the McNulty family. It's just that I knew them too well, and this sound like the same shit they put out as kids. What makes me the most upset is not them. It's that they are, in my opinion, putting a bunch of crap on this site that is supposed to be a healing place for all of your ex seedlings or straights or whatever name you've decided to call it. I see a lot of familiar names that are posting quite serious attemtps to REACH OUT and HEAL from that horrible trauma.
Their blabber, with Ginger saying she's fucking with John Ashcroft and calling it work and then starting, what was it Ginger, Anonymous Anonymous? Is that some sort of snide joke you're attempting to play on your family or the rest of us. Because I ain't buying it sweet heart. That's just your "fuck you" attitude and your "You stole my new bike" squat girl jibberish.
And Ginger, I really hope that you discover soon that you can't fix the world or rid it of all its problems. Free and open expression of politics are fine; yours just rings of self absorbtion.
Sorry hon, just an old telling YOU to come back when YOU can grasp the truth.
And BTW, have any of you fricken creeps ever really moved on with life and gotten a real job? Or are you still holding out for all the money when Mama goes too? Again. sorry to sound so hateful and mean. It's just you and your families ugly Karma coming back to spit venon back in your rotten faces.
To all my other old friends out there who got sucked into the SEED and spit back out as zombies, I truly hope you have found a way to deal with it and PUT IT BEHIND YOU.
I know you can never forget, and I know some of you will never forgive, and I don't blame you.
But try to put the thing in an adult perspective , if that makes any sense.
You all -- you, your families, your friends -- were conned by a snake oil man than sleazed into town in the dead of night and set up a shop of horrors in some rundown warehouse on the other side of town.
You were victims. It's the parents voice that I keep missing on this site.
Good luck and God bless, even to the McNutties
JG
Anonymous:
and by the way, did any of the Hobby kids get out of this thing alive or fairly unharmed?
The last time I saw phil was in the early 80s. We ran into each other at bar and got shitfaced drunk and coked out. Hope they found real recovery. I liked them and wish them well. Just how involved in this mess did their parents become? the mother was a drunk, swigging gin from the bottle at noon as she chain smoked Salems and screamed at her kids. Sorry to talk bad of the dead, but she was a
screeeeeaaaammmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (sorry phil)
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