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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2011, 01:04:24 PM »
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This looks interesting:

http://exopermaculture.com/2011/05/14/b ... ol-program

Just reading the language used, it doesn't hold much water.  We know the Monarch program existed but we also know that the expected results don't pan out.  The control is limited - the "controller" has to be close by.  The practice of brainwashing is a bit more effective because it can prohibit someone from thinking something lest it stir the traumatic stress (this is where the nightmares come creeping in after a couple years after your exit.)

There was no controller he could return to.  Controllers are a bit obvious - they are difficult to hide, because the victim will too often ask for them by name.  Loughner expressed nothing of that sort.  This looks like either a revenge attack at Giffords' support for Teen Challenge (via Wayne's hypothesis) or a revenge attack against Congress' complicitness (our hypothesis described earlier in the thread.)
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Postby Wayne Kernochan » August 23rd, 2011, 10:16 pm
The search said this is close to Marana

Community Behavioral Health Services Page, AZ
Primary Service: Alcohol and Drug Rehabilitation Facility
Services Offered: American Sign Language, Drug/Alcohol Detoxification, Outpatient, Short term Residential Care 30 Days or Less
Payment Forms Accepted: Self payment, Medicaid, Medicare, State financed insurance (other than Medicaid), Private health insurance, Military insurance (e.g., VA,TRICARE)

http://www.usnodrugs.com/Arizona/Page/C ... h_Services
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I don't mind you promoting it on our site, Wayne. Really!! It may make you feel uncomfortable and I have thought of this. But I have really put some brain into this and I keep coming up with that if we are to reconcile then we must first acknowledge together the truth.
I just wanted to put this out there for some careful consideration.
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Postby Wayne Kernochan » August 23rd, 2011, 10:25 pm
There's also a Teen Challenge program there

http://www.azteenchallenge.org/

Abuse article

http://medicalwhistleblower.blogspot.co ... lenge.html

    President George W. Bush asked that new White House office to "identify and act to remedy statutory, regulatory, and bureaucratic barriers that stand in the way of effective faith-based and community social programs."



    Scott Bloch served as Deputy Director of the DOJ Task Force for the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (OFBCI). Attorney Scott Bloch, as a US Attorney, certainly did not do due diligence in determining whether it was appropriate to funnel funds to facilities that would be housing vulnerable children and adults and who were also hiring staff at those facilities who were ex-cons with known criminal convictions for sexual abuse of children, drug dealing, domestic violence and money laundering. Why? Perhaps it is because it was the wish of the new President of the United States, George W. Bush (January 20, 2001 – January 20, 2009), to provide an open field for Charles Colson’s InnerChange Prison program and the expansion of Teen Challenge and the ministries of the Assembly of God.



    Charles "Chuck" Wendell Colson is a Christian leader, cultural commentator, and former Special Counsel for President Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1973. Chuck Colson was named as one of the Watergate Seven and pled guilty to obstruction of justice for attempting to defame Pentagon Papers defendant Daniel Ellsberg. Charles “Chuck” Colson was known as a man valuable to President Nixon because he was willing to be ruthless in getting things done according to David Plotz in a Slate March 10, 2000 article called " Charles Colson - How a Watergate crook became America's greatest Christian conservative"



    Chuck Colson was known as Nixon's "hatchet man". Colson was described by some of his colleagues as "evil genius" in the Nixon administration. Many can still remember that it was Chuck Colson who was willing to resort to domestic terrorism and who discussed possible firebombing the Brookings Institution.

?June 22Danny Bennison
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I don't mind you promoting it on our site, Wayne. Really!! It may make you feel uncomfortable and I have thought of this. But I have really put some brain into this and I keep coming up with that if we are to reconcile then we must first acknowledge together the truth.
I just wanted to put this out there for some careful consideration.
Your friend
Danny


Wayne (or who ever you are) I don't see how you can even show your face around here after what you have done to survivors. First off you defamed and embarrassed a woman by posting her full name and saying she was raped. You posted names of males and said they were sodomized. All this being a lie so you could continue to defame and slander Daniel Bennison.
You have brought your friends on here to lie for you Douglas Hannah he was busted in his very own video's.
You have repeatedly lied and have been busted right here on fornits .
You also have the gall to have a signature with my name attached and say your are being abused.
Wayne this site will not harbor a fraud and a pimp.
You are a fucking street hustling PIMP who uses women and men for your filthy foul stories to hurt others. If Froderik, Drogon and your X friend want to support this fucked behavior then maybe all of you should STFU because you are worse then the people you are going after.
Oh and BTW this whole conspricacy theory concerning this thread is about as retarded as you four.
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2011, 03:55:13 PM »
Knock it off, Dan.
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
« Reply #36 on: April 21, 2012, 10:02:29 PM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162- ... ncol;lst;3

(CBS News) Chuck Colson, a former aide to Richard Nixon, evangelical leader, author and nonprofit founder, died Saturday at the age of 80.


He passed away at a hospital in Northern Virginia, three weeks after surgery to ease intercerebral hemorrhage -- a large pool of clotted blood in his brain.


Colson was Nixon's special counsel and was part of the Watergate scandal which led to Nixon's resignation. He was known as the president's "hatchet man," and also served on Nixon's re-election committee, which plotted and attempted to steal information from the Democratic Party headquarters.

Colson pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and served seven months of a one-to-three year prison sentence.


Prior to the start of his prison sentence, Colson became a born-again Christian. After his release from an Alabama prison, Colson founded Prison Fellowship, a nonprofit organization that conducts outreach to prisoners to "seek the transformation of prisoners... through the power and truth of Jesus Christ."


According to his bio for Prison Fellowship, Colson formed the idea of Prison Fellowship when a fellow inmate told him "there ain't nobody cares about us. Nobody!" Colson started the organization and ran it for 33 years.


Jim Liske, CEO of Prison Fellowship, told CBS News that Colson continued to meet with top elected officials and leaders but "would rather be in prison embracing an inmate."


Colson wrote more than 30 books on religion and faith. In 1991 he founded BreakPoint, where he broadcast daily radio commentaries on news and politics "from a Christian perspective."

Colson never left the political scene, consistently advocating on behalf of conservative policies. He opposed abortion and same-sex marriage and supported the Iraq war. In 2008, President George W. Bush gave Colson the Presidential Citizens Medal.


Colson is survived by his wife, Patty, three children and five grandchildren.
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2012, 10:04:04 PM »
From 60 Minutes Facebook page

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MIKE & THE ‘HATCHET MAN’: The passing of Charles Colson, a key political strategist to President Richard Nixon, reminded us of the role that Mike Wallace played in Colson’s life.

 Mike interviewed Colson in May 1974 and pressed him about the “dirty tricks” that he’d helped mastermind against Nixon’s opponents.

 Colson later said that Mike’s tough line of questions about the morality of his actions on behalf of the Nixon White House were essential to changing his ways. Colson pled guilty to obstruction of justice charges, served time in prison, and then devoted his life to prison ministry and conservative Christian activism.
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2012, 09:56:27 AM »
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57418411-503544/former-nixon-aide-chuck-colson-dies-at-80/?tag=mncol;lst;3

(CBS News) Chuck Colson, a former aide to Richard Nixon, evangelical leader, author and nonprofit founder, died Saturday at the age of 80.


He passed away at a hospital in Northern Virginia, three weeks after surgery to ease intercerebral hemorrhage -- a large pool of clotted blood in his brain.


Colson was Nixon's special counsel and was part of the Watergate scandal which led to Nixon's resignation. He was known as the president's "hatchet man," and also served on Nixon's re-election committee, which plotted and attempted to steal information from the Democratic Party headquarters.

Colson pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and served seven months of a one-to-three year prison sentence.


Prior to the start of his prison sentence, Colson became a born-again Christian. After his release from an Alabama prison, Colson founded Prison Fellowship, a nonprofit organization that conducts outreach to prisoners to "seek the transformation of prisoners... through the power and truth of Jesus Christ."


According to his bio for Prison Fellowship, Colson formed the idea of Prison Fellowship when a fellow inmate told him "there ain't nobody cares about us. Nobody!" Colson started the organization and ran it for 33 years.


Jim Liske, CEO of Prison Fellowship, told CBS News that Colson continued to meet with top elected officials and leaders but "would rather be in prison embracing an inmate."


Colson wrote more than 30 books on religion and faith. In 1991 he founded BreakPoint, where he broadcast daily radio commentaries on news and politics "from a Christian perspective."

Colson never left the political scene, consistently advocating on behalf of conservative policies. He opposed abortion and same-sex marriage and supported the Iraq war. In 2008, President George W. Bush gave Colson the Presidential Citizens Medal.


Colson is survived by his wife, Patty, three children and five grandchildren.
None-Ya said the same thing to me in a private message  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2012, 12:43:41 PM »
Quote from: "Horatio."
Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan"
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57418411-503544/former-nixon-aide-chuck-colson-dies-at-80/?tag=mncol;lst;3

(CBS News) Chuck Colson, a former aide to Richard Nixon, evangelical leader, author and nonprofit founder, died Saturday at the age of 80.


He passed away at a hospital in Northern Virginia, three weeks after surgery to ease intercerebral hemorrhage -- a large pool of clotted blood in his brain.


Colson was Nixon's special counsel and was part of the Watergate scandal which led to Nixon's resignation. He was known as the president's "hatchet man," and also served on Nixon's re-election committee, which plotted and attempted to steal information from the Democratic Party headquarters.

Colson pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice and served seven months of a one-to-three year prison sentence.


Prior to the start of his prison sentence, Colson became a born-again Christian. After his release from an Alabama prison, Colson founded Prison Fellowship, a nonprofit organization that conducts outreach to prisoners to "seek the transformation of prisoners... through the power and truth of Jesus Christ."


According to his bio for Prison Fellowship, Colson formed the idea of Prison Fellowship when a fellow inmate told him "there ain't nobody cares about us. Nobody!" Colson started the organization and ran it for 33 years.


Jim Liske, CEO of Prison Fellowship, told CBS News that Colson continued to meet with top elected officials and leaders but "would rather be in prison embracing an inmate."


Colson wrote more than 30 books on religion and faith. In 1991 he founded BreakPoint, where he broadcast daily radio commentaries on news and politics "from a Christian perspective."

Colson never left the political scene, consistently advocating on behalf of conservative policies. He opposed abortion and same-sex marriage and supported the Iraq war. In 2008, President George W. Bush gave Colson the Presidential Citizens Medal.


Colson is survived by his wife, Patty, three children and five grandchildren.
None-Ya said the same thing to me in a private message  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:
:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
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I loves me some inmate cock  :nods:
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2012, 12:55:50 PM »
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I loves me some inmate cock  :nods:
You really are a filthy pig
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« Reply #42 on: April 22, 2012, 01:00:13 PM »
Quote from: "Troublemaker"
Quote from: "none-ya."
I loves me some inmate cock  :nods:
You really are a filthy pig
None-Ya is finally getting to the truth (his demons) Let's not attack him for it

You can't fault an idiot for his choice of words. He was too busy raping children as staff to get an education

Maybe if he actually went to the Seed, they would have spotted this and made someone do something about it
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« Reply #43 on: April 22, 2012, 01:28:51 PM »
Quote from: ".T-Rex"
Quote from: "Troublemaker"
Quote from: "none-ya."
I loves me some inmate cock  :nods:
You really are a filthy pig
None-Ya is finally getting to the truth (his demons) Let's not attack him for it

You can't fault an idiot for his choice of words. He was too busy raping children as staff to get an education

Maybe if he actually went to the Seed, they would have spotted this and made someone do something about it
Your right. If he wasn't such a foul, filthy, abusive piece of shit, I'd apologize
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Re: What Program was Jared Loughner, Arizona gunner, In?
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2012, 11:54:50 AM »
Quote from: "Hugo Long"
“Matty be careful I visit your hometowne [sic] with about 250 other AA men for a conference every May look it up. I should be seeing you in May. We just may corral you and before you know it you be brainwashed. Oh and If I forgot to tell you that I come to your hometown ( like I forgot to tell you about being a Ex-Ass. Dir.) sorry I was going to surprise you.

Now I know you don’t want to start talking about the mother of your children do you Matt, please leave mine out of this conversation. I mentioned it for reference, she went on to post to Ursus. Not you.

Matt whenever you want to crawl out of your whoa is me, the Ex Ass Dir is picking on me routine that would be nice. Your [sic] 51 now grow up. Remember you said that you worked thru [sic] this, well act like it.

This is Danny now has been since 1978….So nice try so many others were there before you pulling this shit, read it Matt. What are you 15 again. If that is the case then please be serious for the sake of others. Matt you can’t spin this on me buddy sorry take your latent anger out on your counselors. I gave you every opportunity to get honest and you never did. Why because Matty did not want to look like he was siding with a Ass.Director in front of all his Elan resident buddies. Boy that would look horrible….Go back Matt to a phone call I had with you asking you why Mark was posting on facebook that I was a driver flunky for Joe. He knew I was a Ass. Director from my post on a site Sharon had. No this is the explanation you wanted to believe in order to hang out with me. Fine I could have accepted that if you had from the beginning just said I have a problem with associating with you because of.

But you did not you chose a very disrespectful way trash me publically [sic], remember you started this publically [sic] I spoke first in private, so don’t go running around acting like your [sic] innocent.

- Danny”



“I have 21 yrs. in A.A. It does work if you work it.Stay in touch - Danny “



The above quotes are from a guy named Danny Bennison, an AA with a spotted history, and a vicious mean streak. Currently, he writes for “McGowdoghouse,” a blog dedicated to this blog’s existence. His handle over there is “heretikreb,” but he is better known among those who peruse our comment section as “Diablo” (also “Cuggle,” and whatever other sockpuppet he may have slinked through our filter). Understanding the context of the quote requires a bit of background information, both of Diablo (Danny) and the recipient of the comment. It all started with Elan School.

Elan is a private school in Maine, dedicated to helping wayward teenagers. It employs a type of therapy known as “therapeutic community,” which makes the 12-steps look like walk through the park. Its most famous alumnus is Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel, made famous for the murder of his neighbor, Martha Moxley – an act he committed prior to attending Elan. Like Michel Skakel, most of those housed there are from well-to-do families, with the current annual fees costing upwards of $50,000.

Diablo was at Elan, starting in the mid-seventies, for almost three and a half years. First as a student, and later as a resident staff member. He made quite the impression on the other students, with threads in internet forums dedicated specifically to him, by former students of the school who characterize him with terms such as “monster.” People now in their fifties, were so traumatized by him, that multiple internet sites and forums have been started to help his victims connect and cope.

One such student, Wayne Kernochan, was so traumatized by his experience at Elan School, that he wrote an online book about his and other students’ experiences there – with our resident troll, Diablo, as the central figure in the plot: A Life Gone Awry: My Story of the Elan School. Among the many abuses chronicled in the book, was a time when Diablo tied a girl up and dragged her behind the back of his car. She was overweight, and this was Diablo’s method of convincing her to lose weight. As horrific as this sounds, it’s an incident to which Diablo fully admits, and for which he has no regrets. This is from an internet forum where Diablo engages his victims:

“…As far as the dragging incident I am not nor will I be ashamed at programs and the courses it takes, I know that the once Fat Girl thanks me now. I will help any of you lose wight [sic] like here [sic] just call me….”

What kind of sadistic ass-clown ties someone up and drags them around behind the back of a car? And with no remorse. This was written after he had written one of his “amends letters™” to those in this forum whom he had abused. Among the highlights in the amends letter™:

“Wayne I also want to take this time to apologize for any and all harm I caused you either directly or indirectly. I was put in charge to care for you (whether Elan wanted me to do this or not) I knew that you needed to be protected and I failed horribly.

 I can only hope in time you can see just how sincere I am.

Now I would also like to take the time to express my sincere apologies to others to have gone to Elan that I was unkind to and down right [sic] rude to over the last year or so. As I have said before I could not have prepared myself enough to understand the impact of emotions that stormed back into my life when I ventured onto this site and others concerning Elan.

I did not handle the emotions from others well. I can only hope that Felice, Sharon, Matt, Mark, Wayne and others can forgive my intolerable behavior I displayed here and other sites a while back. My ongoing amends to you all has been to leave you alone and to empathize with your pain and how I can irritate this with my behavior.”

Notice his mention of those who he had been “unkind to and down right [sic] rude to.” He’s making reference to his numerous meltdowns and continued degradation toward those who he had abused years ago. Today, most of these have been deleted by forum moderators, but there are still fragments of conversations – responses containing quotes from now deleted posts – which give a fairly clear picture of Diablo’s emotional instability. A quick google search of “Danny Bennison Elan” will give you a treasure trove of sociopathic-like behavior, both from Diablo’s words, and from the accounts of his victims. For years, Diablo has been trolling the forums set up to discuss him. His comments teeter from belligerence to apologetic. From anger, to amends™, and back to anger again. It’s the same bi-polar M.O. he operated under here. Often in the same, slogan-ridden language of AA – using the standard catch words and aphorisms. It makes Bill Wilson’s personality look like the epitome of stability. Diablo is just flat-out crazy.

Every human has a few skeletons in their closet, and has people in their past they may have harmed and taken advantage of — but how many people have treated others so badly, they have forums dedicated to help their victims cope with the abuse that they’ve had imposed on them. Who has been so abusive in their life that someone from thirty years in their past decides to write a book about it? Who has friends in high school refer to them as a “monster”?  How can this possibly be rectified in an amends letter™?

We have debated whether or not to post about this, but we decided to do so for a few reasons. First, Diablo posted his name openly in our comment section, so the question of anonymity on his part was not a problem. We will not disclose anyone’s name publicly, even those with whom we disagree; and even someone as vicious as Diablo.

Secondly, a rumor has started among a couple of people who were vaguely aware of Diablo’s identity, that he was somehow involved in a murder, which is not remotely true. Diablo has done enough to make himself look bad, without any help from false accusations and innuendo. As big of a jerk as Diablo is, even the implication of his involvement in a murder is unconscionable. The truth is that Diablo claims to have been deposed as a witness in the Michael Skakel trial, which is entirely possible, because they were both at Elan School at the same time. There was a question as to whether Skakel had confessed to the murder of Martha Moxley while he was a student at Elan. Diablo’s involvement as a witness (if he actually did testify) was ancillary, and he had no involvement in the incident. It happened well before Skakel had entered the school, or met the other students (including Diablo).

Finally, and most importantly, he has since we banned him, made contact with some of the readers of this blog, whose emails he acquired after contacting them as a member of the community forum. Our primary reason for getting rid of the forum, is because we could not prevent internet predators and trolls from gaining the trust, and potentially harming, other members. Not just with Diablo, but others, as well. If Diabo (or “heretikreb” or “cuggle” or any of his other aliases we are unaware of) has made contact with you, be aware of the type of person you are dealing with. Diablo, Danny Bennison, is a sick person, and he is aptly named.

Diablo has been an AA for over twenty years. He has sponsored people and worked his way through the AA social circle. No doubt those he sat next to in meetings, sponsored, gained trust from, and coached through the program; had no knowledge of his past, and most likely his present. A person who is inclined to drag a girl around on a rope with a car, has problems that stem well beyond drinking. Clearly, just judging from actions here on our blog, his manipulation and abuse never really ended. At least with us, it was simply head games on the internet, which makes him fairly harmless (unless any of you were foolish enough to share email or telephone information). In AA, it is different. This is a person you are told to trust, that his – not your – judgment is what matters. This is who you are asked to give yourself over to. This Diablo is team McGowdog’s, but there are tens of thousands of Diablos throughout AA. This is the guy sitting next to you at a meeting.

http://stinkin-thinkin.com/2011/04/06/m ... -bennison/
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