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German transgendered girl, Alex, has been institutionalized

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none-ya:

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--- Quote from: "none-ya" ---Does the world gone mad? Transgendering children? Get it right. Your gender was decided at conception. An 11 year old can't possibly understand any of this. Leave nature alone.
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Transgendered people often realize from a young age that they don't wish to be the gender they were born. At the very least, an investigation needs to be done, not just institutionalizing a child based on a one hour interview with a nurse.
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What you wish doesn't matter. Drop your drawers in front of the mirror. End of confusion. You want to be "gay"? Then be gay. But surgery and hormone therapy still won't change your gender, only your appearance.

none-ya:
TRANSGENDERING MINORS IS CHILD ABUSE! WORTHY OF DR. MENGELE!!

Reddit TroubledTeens:

--- Quote from: "none-ya" ---
--- Quote from: "Reddit TroubledTeens" ---
--- Quote from: "none-ya" ---Does the world gone mad? Transgendering children? Get it right. Your gender was decided at conception. An 11 year old can't possibly understand any of this. Leave nature alone.
--- End quote ---

Transgendered people often realize from a young age that they don't wish to be the gender they were born. At the very least, an investigation needs to be done, not just institutionalizing a child based on a one hour interview with a nurse.
--- End quote ---


What you wish doesn't matter. Drop your drawers in front of the mirror. End of confusion. You want to be "gay"? Then be gay. But surgery and hormone therapy still won't change your gender, only your appearance.
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I think you need to do some reading up on transgendered people, none-ya. Gender identity has nothing to do with sexual orientation, ie, gay vs. straight. There is some good info here for newbs:

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comme ... e_deal_is/


--- Quote ---Sexual orientation is about sexual desire; your orientation describes who you are attracted to.

Gender identity is about the fundamental sense of who and what one is; your gender identity describes an aspect of who you are. If a person's gender identity doesn't match their anatomical sex, they're transsexual.

Nobody knows entirely how gender identity forms. All evidence says it's set by birth, and there's evidence it's neurological, literally built into the physical structures of the brain.

It may be an aspect of the brain-body map; the hardwired ability of a brain to recognize the body it is in. You don't have to see your nose to know it's there, and you didn't have to learn it - your brain is built to know there's a nose there. And if your nose was cut off or you were born without one, your brain would still be built to know one should be there. The "my body is wrong" dysphoria transsexual people feel may be an aspect of this.

There's also a lot of evidence suggesting prenatal hormones are a major factor here. All fetuses start out physically the same - they all start out anatomically female, regardless of genetics. As gestation progresses, if there's a Y chromosome present it's normally activated by testosterone in the mother's blood (all women have some). This causes the neo-gonads to turn into testes, which then flood the system with more testosterone and cause the fetus to develop into a male.

If something in this process goes off, the fetus can turn into an intersex or transsexual baby. Early in gestation, if the fetus can't respond to testosterone or there isn't enough, or there's a lot more estrogen than usual, the XY fetus can stay physically female become neither male nor female. If an XX fetus is exposed to lots of testosterone early on it can develop as male or as neither male nor female.

That's when the body's forming. Later in gestation the body is basically done, but the brain is being built. An XY fetus flooded with estrogen at this point won't look unusual physically, but the developing brain may be wired to expect a female form. An XX fetus flooded with testosterone late in gestation is developing its brain under conditions typical for a male fetus, and the brain may be built accordingly even if the body still looks typically female.
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Also, check out this story of twins; one was born transgendered, the other wasn't. It was a journey for the family to come to terms with it: http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2011/1 ... story.html

Forcing any child to assume a gender they don't identify with is abusive, no matter what body they were born into. The suicide rates of misunderstood transgendered children is extremely high. Pointing a kid to a mirror is an extremely simplistic approach to a complex issue.

none-ya:
Let me get this straight. A teenage boy is prohibited by law from having any kind of intercourse or sexual contact of any kind. He is not allowed to touch a vagina. He is not allowed to look at a vagina in a strip club,or smut magazines.You are supposed to be at least 18 years old to even look at at a vagina on the internet. So according to the law,said teenage boy has to live in a vagina free world until he is 18 for his own protection. But yet it is somehow legal for a  doctor to make him his very own vagina out his own body parts?!!!! Not yet old enough to have sex. But old enough to make sexually based decisions of this magnitude??
YES THE WORLD HAS GONE FUCKING MAD!!!

ps. I wonder if Chas Bono is much happier an overweight unattractive man, than "he" was as an overweight  unattractive woman?

Reddit TroubledTeens:
I'm hardly an expert in this subject, but I don't believe they do gender reassignment surgery on minors. However, I've read that doing hormone therapy during puberty can save a lot of trouble in the future. Chas looks pretty happy to me in that photo. Why does this bother you so much?

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