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Danish dark past thread
Oscar:
--- Quote from: "Reddit TroubledTeens" ---Thank you, Oscar, for putting together all of this info. I had no idea things were so bad there, especially with the suppression of information. I'm just aghast that your voices are not allowed freedom of speech. I have always considered Denmark to be far more advanced in social causes than the states (esp after visiting Copenhagen). I saw an article about Danes being outraged by a kid who was tethered to a wall in an institution and was impressed that your society could recognize the abuse. Here in the states we tie children to beds for so long they are forced to defecate on themselves and no one seems to care.
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Danes are in general compassionate people who cares until a new headline takes their attention away from this issue.
Everyone knows that time in the foster care in Denmark are equal less chance of an education. Everyone knows that it is equal increased risk of being abused sexual. The department of social services does openly accept that they don't know if residential care or treatment works. There are several reports of that.
Every time we have a scandal people want head of the responsible parties on a plate - for 1-2 weeks. Then other news remove the interest of the citizens and eveyone forgets what took place.
Last year a treatment center named Herkules took kids to Sweden to a wilderness therapy program where the kids were made to believe that they were standing on a land mine. The had an actress coming in posing as a troubled teen who tried to escape only to be caught and have his fingers being biten off by one of the guard dogs. A very well-prepaired stunt which scared the teens. The treatment center was closed down. Right now another treatment facility called Solhaven is under investigation because they allowed male employees to remove the trousers on a girl.
We have a long path to walk before the world is perfect - even in Denmark.
www.mofosnetwork.com:
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minions of elan:
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Reddit TroubledTeens:
The Danes on reddit are skeptical. If you have any interest in responding, it takes 2 seconds to make an account on reddit. You just need a username and password, email is optional (but required if you ever forget your password).
http://www.reddit.com/r/Denmark/comment ... titutions/
grumpypants_mcnallen
5 points 10 hours ago (6|1)
A quick few tl;dr snippets:
Asylums in Denmark were something left behind in the 18-century up to 1979. Before 1979 clients adult and juvenile were not allowed to wear their own clothes. They often received clothes left behind by those who were discharged or died in the system. We are talking 1979 - not 1879.
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Teenagers or in some case children who were taken in by the authorities were often beaten during their stay.
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On every school there are at least 10 people who have no dealing with the normal schooling. They are assigned to find problem families so their colleagues down in the department of social security can get new clients.
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It doesn’t stop here. Your children cannot get pregnant in Denmark. They have to leave the country because their names will be stored on a warning list if they have been in the system once as a child.
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Once they announce their pregnancy to a doctor or to the hospital the department of social services is noticed by a email and they will demand that the mother and the child live in a special group home for new mothers for the first 6 months while the ability of the new mother to do her job is evaluated.
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If it really was like this, then the press would have a field day. Sorry Pixel8, but just because somebody posted a story on the internet doesn't make it true.
The 'banned website' is a site that lists people by name and has in very short words state why the should be there, most simply say 'Abuse of power'. There are no links to any documentation or any other kind explanation. He moved the website to be hosted in germany last year, fearing he'd get sued for Libel and for not adhering to the danish privacy protection laws.
AllisonWeatherwax
5 points 10 hours ago (5|1)
There are no help or no offers from the department of social services in Denmark – only orders. They are a state inside the state in Denmark. Avoid them by all means.
This is bullshit. Don't get me wrong. Looking back there's loads of weird shit that makes Denmark's social and mental health services look questionable. And things are hardly perfect today, but this is bullshit.
charlesrussell
2 points 6 hours ago (2|0)
Is this from The Onion?
Oscar:
One of the organizations we exchange information with has been after this facility for some time. They managed to get former students and journalists to speak with each other and for 2 nights in row the facility has been in the media:
Solhaven: few childcare specialists
Denmarks Radio, 28. feb. 2012
Only 3 out of 75 employees at the Solhaven children’s residential facility have a background in childcare.
This emerged after 21Søndag revealed some serious allegations against Solhaven on its use of beatings, emotional abuse and unnecessary use of force against young residents.
“The practice of childcare is non-existent, at least not as I know it,” former employee Mette Krog told DR News.
From 2008 to 2009 she was employed at Himmerlands RådgivningsCenter in Farsø, part of the same organisation, which is run by Søren Virenfeldt, director, board member and general manager of Solhaven.
Disgusting
Mette Krog witnessed several violent methods, including one known as the “coffee visit”.
“It was a disgusting method. It involved 10-12 people rushing into one of the young resident’s rooms simply to create fear,” she said.
At this facility, only 6 out of 63 employees were trained in childcare:
“There were a lot of big, strong, rough men,” she said.
Predominance of manual workers
The same was true at Solhaven, according to a former employee who chose to resign:
“The employees were usually manual workers or security or people with non-childcare qualifications. There was a real lack of professionalism there,” said the man, who wishes to remain anonymous.
Mette Krog was fired after one year, because she spoke out against the methods, she claims:
“To apparently believe that the only recourse is to threaten young people and intimidate them is just throwing the towel into the childcare ring,” said Mette Krog.
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