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~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify police
« on: February 10, 2012, 11:49:44 PM »
This piece of news is about a year old, but nonetheless noteworthy enough to warrant its own thread...

The original article (in Spanish) follows immediately below; crude Google translation to be posted subsequent:

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Diario Junio - Argentina
25/01/2011 - 07:06:59

ISLAS IBICUY: El centro privado está ubicado en Villa Paranacito

Más de 20 internos de un centro de rehabilitación se escaparon y denunciaron malos tratos en la comisaría

Un total de 24 pacientes del instituto de rehabilitación de adicciones ubicado en Villa Paranacito se escaparon y entregaron un petitorio a la policía de ese lugar en el que denuncian malos tratos. Mientras la justicia de Gualeguaychú investiga el carácter del petitorio, los pacientes decidieron no regresar al instituto privado. En el petitorio se hacían severas críticas por la calidad de las comidas y las condiciones de albergue.

Quienes se escaparon, en su mayoría, padecen problemas con el consumo de estupefacientes y provienen de la provincia de Buenos Aires, Capital Federal, Córdoba, Rosario y Mendoza.

Fueron localizados en cercanías de la costa del río y luego fueron trasladados a la Jefatura de Islas, ubicada en Villa Paranacito. El petitorio de quejas fue entregado al juez de Instrucción de Gualeguaychú, Eduardo García Jurado. Según informa Uno, los empleados del instituto Ibicuy dio aviso del escape.

El hecho ocurrió el domingo y vale destacar que presentaron una contradenuncia, las autoridades del Programa Ibicuy, por el delito de amenazas en su defensa.


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More than 20 inmates of a rehabilitation center escaped and.
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 12:02:29 AM »
Here's the crude Google translation. If anyone can post more accurate particulars and/or interpretations, please feel free to do so!

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Diario Junio - Argentina
25/01/2011 - 07:06:59

IBICUY ISLANDS: The private school is located in Villa Paranacito

More than 20 inmates of a rehabilitation center escaped and reported abuse at the police station

A total of 24 patients in addiction rehabilitation institute located in Villa Paranacito escaped and delivered a petition to the police in that place where the abuse report. While Justice investigates the nature of Gualeguaychú request, the patients decided not to return to private school. At the request was made severe criticism for the quality of food and shelter conditions.

Those who escaped, mostly suffering from problems with drug use and come from the province of Buenos Aires, Capital Federal, Cordoba, Rosario and Mendoza.

Were located on the coast near the river and then were transferred to the Head Island, located in Villa Paranacito. The petition of grievances was presented to Judge Gualeguaychú Instruction, Eduardo Garcia Jurado. As reported by one, Ibicuy institute employees gave notice of the leak.

The incident occurred on Sunday and is worth noting that filed a counterclaim, authorities Ibicuy Program for the offense of threats to his defense.


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Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 12:03:05 AM »
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Comments: "Más de 20 internos de un centro de rehabilitación
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2012, 01:25:59 AM »
A comment left on the above article, "Más de 20 internos de un centro de rehabilitación se escaparon y denunciaron malos tratos en la comisaría" (25/01/2011, Diario Junio), and a crude Google translation thereof:


Raúl · 2011-01-25 19:27:33
    Que quieren??? que les den INTERNET Y TV SATELITAL??? Lo mejor sería que éstos muchachos pudieran limpiar cunetas, pintar cordón cuneta, realizar trabajos de refacción para escuelas (sillas, mesas, pinturas) y ahí van a saber que la mejor forma de pasar el tiempo es... HACIENDO ALGO!!
    They want??? give them INTERNET AND SATELLITE TV?? Ideally, these guys could clean gutters, paint, gutters, carry out repairs to schools (chairs, tables, pictures) and there will know that the best way to pass time is ... DOING SOMETHING![/list]


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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #4 on: February 11, 2012, 02:29:02 AM »
    This article includes photo of the facility


    Pacientes de centro de rehabilitación escapan y denuncian malos tratos
    UNO

    La Justicia de Instrucción de Gualeguaychú investiga el tenor del petitorio que fue entregado por 24 pacientes del instituto de rehabilitación de adicciones ubicado en Villa Paranacito. Las personas que se encontraban en pleno tratamiento, decidieron en la noche del domingo declararse en rebeldía por lo que emprendieron la fuga sin producir mayores situaciones de violencia.
     
    Desde la Policía se informó a UNO que el personal del instituto Ibicuy dio aviso de la inédita situación por lo que se inició un operativo de búsqueda de las 24 personas.
     
    En el interior de las instalaciones quedaron 26 pacientes más que no se plegaron a la medida de fuerza y fuga.
     
    Los afectados que decidieron escaparse del lugar, en su mayoría padecen problemas con el consumo de estupefacientes y provienen de la provincia de Buenos Aires, Capital Federal, Córdoba, Rosario y Mendoza.
     
    Para ingresar al instituto se debe abonar un arancel que no sería económico, por lo que a nivel nacional esta clínica de rehabilitación es considerada una de las mejores en su tipo, por el tratamiento y las instalaciones que se levantaron en una zona tranquila y mejorada por los titulares del emprendimiento. Las autoridades de la Policía de Islas, indicaron que los fugados fueron localizados en cercanías de la costa del río y luego fueron trasladados sin ningún tipo de inconvenientes a la Jefatura de Islas, ubicada en Villa Paranacito.
     
    Allí fueron contenidos y asistidos, en tanto que el petitorio de quejas fue entregado al juez de Instrucción de Gualeguaychú, Eduardo García Jurado, que tomó directa intervención en el suceso.
     
    Mientras esto ocurría, se verificó que en el interior del instituto privado se albergaban 26 personas, las cuales no expresaron ningún tipo de problemas.
     
    Los responsables de la clínica llegaron ayer a la tarde provenientes de Buenos Aires y, tras contactarse con las autoridades policiales y judiciales, se entrevistaron con los familiares de los 24 pacientes que se encontraban en conflicto.
     
    En el petitorio se hacían severas críticas por la calidad de las comidas, como también las condiciones de albergue del instituto de rehabilitación privado. Se conoció que anoche la mayoría de los afectados en proceso de rehabilitación decidió, junto a sus familiares, retirarse del emprendimiento, en tanto que ahora la autoridad judicial de Gualeguaychú avanzará en la investigación para establecer la veracidad de la denuncia y los dichos de los pacientes que finalmente abandonaron el instituto, luego de fugarse del lugar. Se confirmó que hasta anoche era normal el desarrollo de las actividades en el lugar.

    Rough translation:

    REHAB PATIENTS ESCAPE AND REPORT ABUSE


    Justice investigates Gualeguaychú Instruction under petition that was delivered for 24 patients in addiction rehabilitation institute located in Villa Paranacito. People who were in full treatment, decided on Sunday night declared in default so they made their escape without causing more violence.
     
    Since the police were informed that ONE Ibicuy institute staff gave notice of the unprecedented situation which started a search operation for 24 people.
     
    Inside the facility was 26 patients that were folded to the measure of strength and leak.
     
    The victims who decided to escape the place, most have problems with drug use and come from the province of Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Cordoba, Rosario and Mendoza.
     
    To enter the school must pay a fee that is not economic, so this national rehabilitation clinic is considered one of the best of its kind, for the treatment and facilities that were built in a quiet and enhanced by holders of the venture. Authorities Islands Police indicated that the escapees were located in the vicinity of the riverbank and then were transferred without any inconvenience to the Head Island, located in Villa Paranacito.
     
    They were housed and cared for, while the petition of grievances was presented to the examining magistrate of Gualeguaychú, Eduardo Garcia Jurado, who took direct intervention in the event.
     
    As this happened, it was found that within the private school housed 26 people, which did not express any problems.
     
    Those responsible for the clinic yesterday afternoon arrived from Buenos Aires and after contact with law enforcement authorities, met with the families of the 24 patients who were in conflict.
     
    At the request was made severe criticism for the quality of meals, and terms and conditions of hostel private rehabilitation institute. It was learned last night that most of those affected in the rehabilitation process decided, with their families, withdraw from the venture, while now the judicial authority of Gualeguaychú advances in research to establish the veracity of the complaint and those of patients finally left the school after running away from the place. It was last night confirmed that normal development of activities in place.
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #5 on: February 11, 2012, 02:34:29 AM »
    Homepage of the program: Program Ibicuy

    Unfortunately they have made their homepage in a way which makes it impossible for me to copy paste the text into google translate so I am unable to understand what they state about education and treatment on their website.

    Based on a computer analyze of the photo on their webpage, the campus should be located here.
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #6 on: February 11, 2012, 02:42:36 AM »
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #7 on: February 11, 2012, 03:02:48 AM »
    Quote from: "Oscar"
    Homepage of the program: Program Ibicuy

    Unfortunately they have made their homepage in a way which makes it impossible for me to copy paste the text into google translate so I am unable to understand what they state about education and treatment on their website.

    Based on a computer analyze of the photo on their webpage, the campus should be located here.

    Site uses a scrolling quote from Aristotle, who is famous for discussing Nicomachean ethics where the belief that young should be governed by laws is established.  File that one for the Thought Reform forum.

    Not really seeing anything particularly remarkable but I can manage an ok translation (paw around with my knowledge of Latin and French.)  It has all the goody-goody schlock one would expect with these scams.  Has a primary focus on drugs - or rather imagines itself as having a solution for every problem under the sun by blaming the consumption of drugs.
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #8 on: February 11, 2012, 03:03:52 AM »
    We have located a name: Juan Carlos Ferreyra

    It seems that he had been at Elan in the United States years back. I was surprised that we had an old entry of this program on Fornits Wiki, but Paulu made this one April 2009. Here is an old thread on Fornits

    Here is an article:

    Una exclusiva comunidad para tratar adicciones

    A 180 kilómetros de la Capital Federal, Ibicuy ocupa un lugar de privilegio ante el vacío de instituciones que no sean hospitales ni clínicas. “Trabajamos en enseñarle a los pacientes que hay otras maneras de obtener placer y proveerle herramientas para que tomen el control de su vida”, dijo su director a Infobae.com
    “Yo pasé por este tratamiento en los EEUU, en 1983, y me di cuenta que no había en la Argentina este tipo de comunidad”. Así, en primera persona, contó a Infobae.com

    Juan Carlos Ferreyra los inicios de Ibicuy.

    El director de la institución que se plantea como “una alternativa de solución eficaz a problemas de comportamiento serios en jóvenes y adolescentes, generalmente asociados al consumo de drogas” –tal como reza la página web del lugar- contó que a la comunidad ubicada en Villa Paranacito (Entre Ríos) llegan “casos que ya hicieron, sin éxito, tratamiento en otros lugares”.

    “Trabajamos en la raíz del problema, para nosotros no basta tener a una persona en un lugar sin que se drogue. Hay que enseñarle otras maneras de obtener placer y demostrarle que hay actitudes de vida que hacen que tome el control de sus actos”, aseguró Ferreyra, quien remarcó que el programa que allí utilizan “recrea ejercicios y experiencias que hacen que la persona sea responsable, dado que una de las características del adicto es que cree que no es responsable de lo que le pasa”.


    Según el director de la entidad, “la adicción no se trata. Lo que sí se trata es que la persona adquiera el grado de responsabilidad para tomar decisiones que no sean autodestructivas, ya que en la vida siempre se va a encontrar con problemas”.

    “Todos quieren que su hijo no se drogue, pero lo que no saben es que el problema empezó antes de que se drogue”, destacó.

    Acerca de qué adicciones son las que en Ibicuy tratan, Ferreyra destacó que “drogas, alcohol, bulimia, anorexia, todas las conductas que derivan en adicciones y por distintas razones el paciente llega a ese punto de salida, de evasión”.

    “No siempre es necesario contar con la aprobación voluntaria del paciente para iniciar la recuperación. En menores de edad, por ejemplo, alcanza con la autorización de los padres”, destacó el director, y subrayó: “La experiencia demuestra que aquellos que ingresan contra su voluntad tienen casi las mismas posibilidades de recuperación de quienes acuden por propia determinación”.

    En la entidad –según palabras de su director- parten de la premisa de que “el vínculo que trae el paciente con la familia es enfermizo” y que “hay que romperlo y empezar desde otro lado”.

    Es por eso que el tema de las visitas lo tratan “de manera terapéutica”: “Como en general no valoran (los pacientes) el vínculo con sus familiares, entonces restringimos las visitas para que lo aprecien. Mientras, las familias también se involucran en el tratamiento, en la dependencia de Ibicuy de la Capital Federal”.

    A modo de conclusión, Ferreyra enfatizó que debe hacerse hincapié “en la raíz del problema y no cuando el síntoma está instalado”.

    “De los que terminan el tratamiento, 8 de cada 10 están bien (los otros dos reinciden y a veces necesitan una re internación, generalmente a causa de problemas familiares que el grupo no quiere cambiar)”, sintetizó Ferreyra, quien destacó que terminan siete de cada 10 ingresados.
     
    El método
    Implementado por un equipo médico que integran psiquiatras, psicólogos, médicos clínicos y enfermeros, “el programa está organizado de manera tal de provocar una crisis ya que detrás de la crisis está el cambio. El programa genera las crisis y las resuelve en el propio ámbito”, según explicó Ferreyra.
    “Desde el ingreso, cada residente es evaluado por un psicólogo, que establece su diagnóstico inicial y, a partir de entonces, va efectuando sucesivos test de progreso, hasta determinar el alta”, detalla la web de Ibicuy.

    Así, la actividad de los residentes está organizada en departamentos de cocina, mantenimiento, seguridad, comercial y comunicaciones. “El residente nuevo comienza siendo un trabajador común y gradualmente asume cargos de mayor responsabilidad. Luego supervisa a otros ‘trabajadores’ y puede convertirse en jefe de departamento, aprendiz de coordinador y por último coordinador”.

    Rougly translated:

    An exclusive community to treat addiction

    180 kilometers from Buenos Aires, Ibicuy occupies a privileged place at the emptiness of institutions other than hospitals or clinics. "We work on teaching patients that there are other ways to get pleasure and provide tools to take control of your life, "said its director Infobae.com

    "I went through this treatment in the U.S., in 1983, and I realized that there was in Argentina this type of community." Thus, in first person, told Juan Carlos Ferreyra Infobae.com the early Ibicuy.

    The director of the institution that is promoted as "an effective alternative solution to serious behavioral problems in youths and adolescents, usually associated with drug use," as it says the website of the place, told the community located in Villa Paranacito (Entre Rios) reach "cases that were unsuccessfully treated elsewhere."

    "We work at the root of the problem, not enough for us to have a person in a place without drogue. You have to teach other ways to get pleasure and show that there are attitudes that make life take control of their actions, "said Ferreyra, who stressed that the program used there" recreates exercises and experiences that the person is responsible, since one of the characteristics of the addict is that he believes is not responsible for what happens. "

    According to the director of the entity, "addiction is not. What I question is that the person acquires the degree of responsibility to make decisions that are not self-destructive, and that life is always going to find problems. "

    "Everyone wants their child is not drugged, but I do not know is that the problem started before the drogue" he said.

    About what addictions are treated in Ibicuy, Ferreyra said that "drugs, alcohol, bulimia, anorexia, all behaviors that lead to addictions and for various reasons the patient arrives at the exit point of evasion."

    "It is not always necessary to have the patient's voluntary approval to start the recovery. Minors, for example, achieved with parental consent," the director, and said:

    "Experience shows that those entering from His will have almost the same chances of recovery of those who come on their own determination. "

    In the entity-in the words of its director-start from the premise that "the link that brings the patient to the family is sick" and that "we must break it and start from the other side."

    That's why the theme of the visits they treat "so therapeutic": "As in general do not value (patients) the link with family, then restrict the visitors to appreciate it. Meanwhile, families are also involved in treatment, Ibicuy dependence of the Federal Capital. "

    In conclusion, Ferreyra stressed that emphasis should be placed "at the root of the problem and not when the sign is installed."

    "Of those who complete treatment, 8 out of 10 are good (the other two re-offend and sometimes need a re admission, usually because of family problems that the group does not change)," summarized Ferreyra, who stressed that ending seven every 10 admitted.
     
    The method

    Implemented by a medical team comprising psychiatrists, psychologists, clinicians and nurses, "the program is organized so as to provoke a crisis because the crisis is behind the change. The program generates and resolve crises in their own area, "Ferreyra explained.

    "From the entrance, each resident is evaluated by a psychologist, which sets the initial diagnosis and, thereafter, is making progress successive tests to determine high," explains the Web Ibicuy.

    Thus, the activity of the residents is organized into departments of kitchen, maintenance, security, trade and communications. "The new resident begins as a common laborer and gradually assume positions of greater responsibility. Then supervises other 'workers' and can become head of department, apprentice coordinator and finally coordinator ".
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #9 on: February 11, 2012, 03:08:14 AM »
    Bingo Bango

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    The method

    Implemented by a medical team comprising psychiatrists, psychologists, clinicians and nurses, "the program is organized so as to provoke a crisis because the crisis is behind the change. The program generates and resolve crises in their own area, "Ferreyra explained.
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 03:11:52 AM »
    I don't know anything about the educational standard in Argentina, but the comments on these two youtube videos are almost impossible to understand beside words like "murderer", "suicide" and "Ferreyra"

    Video: drogas Programa Ibicuy
    Video: Programa Ibicuy
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #11 on: February 11, 2012, 03:13:42 AM »
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #12 on: February 11, 2012, 03:16:42 AM »
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #13 on: February 11, 2012, 03:17:42 AM »
    Quote from: "Oscar"
    I don't know anything about the educational standard in Argentina, but the comments on these two youtube videos are almost impossible to understand beside words like "murderer", "suicide" and "Ferreyra"

    Video: drogas Programa Ibicuy
    Video: Programa Ibicuy

    First video's most recent comment is remarking on the language being directly lifted from the 1980s.
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    Re: ~2 dozen Programa Ibicuy residents escape and notify pol
    « Reply #14 on: February 11, 2012, 03:34:22 AM »
    Quote from: "Xelebes"
    Quote from: "Oscar"
    I don't know anything about the educational standard in Argentina, but the comments on these two youtube videos are almost impossible to understand beside words like "murderer", "suicide" and "Ferreyra"

    Video: drogas Programa Ibicuy
    Video: Programa Ibicuy

    First video's most recent comment is remarking on the language being directly lifted from the 1980s.

    Second most recent comment is a poetic but vitriolic comment, "the reality show spawning psychopaths"

    Third comment: "I admitted i was there, but now they are paying for everything they have done for years."  This is refering to the escapees and the intervention of the police.

    Fourth comment: Is noting that the amount of pressure to comply with the vitriol is too much and may be toxic, in response to a previous post.

    Fifth comment: This robbing pig (robbing fatso), Ferriera is a farce and has had no respect for human rights since 1986.  So on and so forth.
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