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I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Xelebes:
I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentinia for these videos.
Ruaraidh:
--- Quote from: "Muppeteer" ---I think I'll be able to make up my mind for sure once I have a human translation of the vids.
There were screen caps of his comments floating around which Wayne had posted....I believe he posted them in full context. You may have more information, i recognize that Rud....whatever your name is.
Once again, not defending Wayne...don't care.
But when you pull together a social media profile for Ferreira, I think you'll see man living a fairly public life. Try LinkedIN, all the rest...he's not shying away from any association with his program, and a FB post on a "positive-Elan stories" website doesn't seem to out of the ordinary to me.
If you're telling me Wayne set up a dummy FB profile for Ferriera, in some half assed attempt at "exposing" him, that doesn't make too much sense to me. The man himself seems proud of what he's doing.
And sure, lots of programs used and use similar tactics....I'm here to tell you that what I see in these two videos, sans a comprehensible soundtrack, is Elan. And I suspect that once I have a translation, I'll have even less doubt.
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Muppet Man/Wayne, quit with all the fucking bullshit and call the program. Then we can get rid of your sock puppet ass that just showed up 2 minutes ago. Ask him to come on here and explain he isn't hiding, that he is proud and all the other crap you are saying. Wayne, you said you had talked with him. Sooooo bring him here we can Skype.
Here is the deal, prove it Wayne oh I'm sorry Muppet Man.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Muppeteer" ---I think I'll be able to make up my mind for sure once I have a human translation of the vids.
There were screen caps of his comments floating around which Wayne had posted....I believe he posted them in full context. You may have more information, i recognize that Rud....whatever your name is.
Once again, not defending Wayne...don't care.
But when you pull together a social media profile for Ferreira, I think you'll see man living a fairly public life. Try LinkedIN, all the rest...he's not shying away from any association with his program, and a FB post on a "positive-Elan stories" website doesn't seem to out of the ordinary to me.
If you're telling me Wayne set up a dummy FB profile for Ferriera, in some half assed attempt at "exposing" him, that doesn't make too much sense to me. The man himself seems proud of what he's doing.
And sure, lots of programs used and use similar tactics....I'm here to tell you that what I see in these two videos, sans a comprehensible soundtrack, is Elan. And I suspect that once I have a translation, I'll have even less doubt.
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Well... from what I've observed of the current "state of affairs" in social media, the amount of chicanery can be quite extreme.
Not to mention, the layers of (quite understandable) backlash to all that.
The issue of whether or not the real Juan Ferreira is posting as "Juan Ferreira" on Facebook is beyond my current ability to ascertain. However, it is, believe it or not, perhaps immaterial to the reality of what constitutes the program origins of Programa Ibicuy.
At this stage of the game, not having access to all pertinent sources, I have to say that, despite a predilection for playing Devil's Advocate, I do believe that Elan is a source, perhaps even the major source, for the program Ibicuy. I don't believe, however, that it is the only source.
At the risk of redundancy and excessive reiteration, do take a look (once again, for those avidly following this issue) at a comparison of the shape and form, not to mention specific distribution of foliage, of THE TREE of respective logos reknown:
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Ruaraidh:
--- Quote from: "Xelebes" ---I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentina for these videos.
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A transcript is not going to prove the this guy in the yellow polo talked on the "Elan Saved My life" facebook site. Call them and ask. Why is everyone so afraid to call. Why, so we can carry on this charade of getting transcripts and listening to the english translated version. Then we can all say, hey it sounds just like Elan....The question out there remains, is this guy really posting on the facebook Elan site or is it a fake?
Amazing how Xephelbe, Muppet Man and the turd all show up to obfuscate this thread, Wayne your sock puppets never cease do they. How many can a stupid fuck have. (He who gives his books away for free then claims to have a big day, no shit asshole they were free, I took 5 myself)
Damn they said Sybil had 16 personalities, your getting close, assclown.
Oh!!! X-fuck and Muppet Whore don't bother with the standard line of, "I'm not Wayne" it is old.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Ruaraidh" ---
--- Quote from: "Xelebes" ---I am asking for a transcript from a friend from Argentinia for these videos.
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A transcript is not going to prove the this guy in the yellow polo talked on Elan Saved My life facebook site. Call them and ask. Why is everyone so afraid to call. Why so we can carry on this charade of transcripts and listening to the english translated version. Then we can all say hey it sounds just like Elan....The question out there remains, is the guy a really posting on facebook in the Elan site or is it a fake?
Amazing how Xephelbe, Muppet Man and the turd all show to obfuscate this thread with bullshit, Wayne your sock puppets never cease do they. How many can a stupid fuck (who gives his books away from free then claims to have a big day, no shit asshole they were free I took 5 myself) have. Damn they said Sybil had 16 personalities, your getting close, assclown.
Oh!!! X-fuck and Muppet Whore don't bother with the standard line of, "I'm not Wayne" it is old.
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LOLLLLLL... I may never recover from this!
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