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I too did a search too!! Wayne and Juan Ferreira=Same!!
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "Muppeteer" ---The program in Argentina is very real. Programa Ibicuy. So is Ferriera.
Use your Youtube search with the keyword 'programa ibicuy'
Doesn't get realer than that.
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Yep. Moreover, people have been posting about it here since 2007, possibly even earlier. See:
* Argentina's Elan. Anyone recognize the tree?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21275
* Program in Argentina?
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24551
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We are not disputing that there are not programs in Argentina or for that matter there isn't a Ibicuy. The Tree symbol is what caught everyone's attention because it looked like Elans tree. If you check out the links from 2007 none of them indicate in any way that this is an Elan clone. But if you go to the links on the Elan facebook sites they are set up differently, which is weird. We contacted this place in Argentina and guess what. Call them if you doubt what I am going to say. There is no Juan Ferreira that went to Elan that owns or works for the program linked. No one even knows who this guy is. You can easily check it all out. Unless we were mislead or lied to, there is no Elan connection.
We had a person from Uruguay call for us.
This all we are saying.
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Watch the videos on Youtube and tell me that isn't Elan, lock, stock, and barrel. I don't even speak enough Spanish to understand all the dialogue and shouting, but the visuals alone are enough.
Juan is real too. He has a lovely blonde wife who looks to be about half his age. I wonder if maybe he met her in the program.
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Keep talking shit Wayne. We are not saying it is not a program. But until you have this guy on YOU TUBE, VIDEO or whatever saying this is a extension or clone of Elan I'll call BULLSHIT!!!
You said the guy who owns this program in Argentina was at Elan. You Wayne (Muppet Whore) made this up along with the name Juan. Was this after you and Rodrigo hooked up. He works at
Microsoft so this explains the computer savvy. You don't surly have it, Wanye.
We want irrefutable proof.
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Well... I'm not sure you're gonna get "irrefutable proof" in the near future, "Ruaraidh." Often, these program founders like to hide the origins of their particular raison d'être. But, over time, and accumulated evidence, admissions of inspiration do ofttimes come to the fore...
Ruaraidh:
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Well... I'm not sure you're gonna get "irrefutable proof" in the near future, "Ruaraidh." Often, these program founders like to hide the origins of their particular raison d'être. But, over time, and accumulated evidence, admissions of inspiration do ofttimes come to the fore...
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Ursus, here is this infamous Juan Ferreira supposedly posting on this Elan facebook site, "Elan Saved My Life" http://www.facebook.com/groups/134849609921732/. I can not copy and paste anything from this site. The owner has asked for people not to. She is a friend of Danny's so I will respect that. Wayne is posting this garbage there because he knows we can't repost here.
I understand "ibicuy" is a program Ursus and I understand the owners try to hide but we aren't talking about that here. Once you read the nonsense posted on this site from Wayne (juan) then you will get it.
Horatio.:
Dude's wife is a piece of ass
none-ya.:
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Real classy
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---Well... I'm not sure you're gonna get "irrefutable proof" in the near future, "Ruaraidh." Often, these program founders like to hide the origins of their particular raison d'être. But, over time, and accumulated evidence, admissions of inspiration do ofttimes come to the fore...
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Ursus, here is this infamous Juan Ferreira supposedly posting on this Elan facebook site, "Elan Saved My Life" http://www.facebook.com/groups/134849609921732/. I can not copy and paste anything from this site. The owner has asked for people not to. She is a friend of Danny's so I will respect that. Wayne is posting this garbage there because he knows we can't repost here.
I understand "ibicuy" is a program Ursus and I understand the owners try to hide but we aren't talking about that here. Once you read the nonsense posted on this site from Wayne (juan) then you will get it.
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"Ruaraidh," I can't access Facebook right now, but I'd say that ... if Juan Ferreira is the same fellow who is interviewed wearing a yellow alligator shirt in the two YouTube clips I'm about to post, it is highly improbable that he would deign to post on Facebook. The person whom you believe to be Ferreira is quite possibly yet another sock puppet utilized by your dear friend and infamy-maker.
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