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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "wdtony" ---I think this is a bigger issue though. The issue of how so many people can be fooled based on peer beliefs and propaganda.
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Propaganda can be a very important tool for social control in democratic societies...
Ursus:
Comments left for the above article, "Accused molester denied more kid time" (by Ken Kolker, 06 Sep 2011, WOOD-TV8), #s 61-78:
Pete Moss · GED · September 7, 2011 at 6:52pm
thank you Susan, you answered a big question, being that 5 of the 8 children were adopted, I'm sure that DHS finds that to put them at a higher risk for harm since they're not his biological children; how do you know that the boy you've referenced wasn't coerced into writing the judge a letter stating that he had lied?
the state & prosecutors CANNOT say whatever they want to the media; you have made yourself look like a fool for even making that claim
so because Mr. Terpening worked various hours/shifts/was the "director," etc, that means that there can be no truth to the allegations? molesters aren't cut from one mold Susan
what is the family doing about the person who made the youtube video? wouldn't the average, decent parent be extremely upset about a youtube video of their children being put out there for the world to see without their consent?
a website written by an attorney doesn't make it true; IF DHS workers were paid a "bonus" when they remove children from a home, wouldn't there be more attempts to so?
Susan, are you really comparing a picture someone has on their facebook page to the video of the Terpening children being used under the circumstances it has been? and you're comparing nose picking to child molestation? REALLY?
REMEMBER: the world was shocked when the allegations against priests came out, child molesters don't wear signs stating that they're child molesters, they can appear to have normal, loving homes
great job by DHS for taking the stand to protect childrenPete Moss · GED · September 7, 2011 at 7:23pm
Susan, since you are so eager to be helpful in providing the public with information about this case, could you please comment on the text that was alledged to have been sent by Mr. Terpening to a male coworker in which Mr. Terpening offered that male fifty dollars for some type of sexual favor? (the text that other employees claim to have seen); was that false too? did other employees lie also?
with the handul of supporters Mr. Terpening seems to have, its almost appears like he is worshiped like some sort of cult leaderPete Moss · GED · September 7, 2011 at 11:03pm
Susan, I'm wondering why you have ignored my question to you, could you please comment on the text that was alledged to have been sent by Mr. Terpening to a male coworker in which Mr. Terpening offered that male fifty dollars for some type of sexual favor? (the text that other employees claim to have seen); was that false too? did other employees lie also?
being that 5 of the 8 children were adopted, I'm sure that DHS finds that to put them at a higher risk for harm since they're not his biological children; how do you know that the boy you've referenced wasn't coerced into writing the judge a letter stating that he had lied?
to become a foster parent, one needs only three reference letters, about the amount of people Mr. Terpening has supporting him, so I would guess that Susan was a reference; how foolish and deceived those people must feel, as though its easier for them to remain in denial than admit they have been manipulated by Mr. TerpeningPete Moss · GED · September 8, 2011 at 4:36am
its quite obvious that DHS did a thorough investigation; the investigation started in May and charges were not sought until just recent weeksAmy Partanen · Works at Childcare Provider · September 8, 2011 at 5:47am
first this man was under an investigation way before the meda got a hold of this story. The media has done a great job trying to protect the children when they do show the video they smear out the childrens faces on tv, which im glad someone is thinking, because now everyone that has the internet can put them young faces with names and oh how sad is that, now these kids have to hear your who, your dad did what and all the other name calling and mean things people say and do...including the children these kids go to school with.
other then the "dad" should be the one everyone blames in this matter, he did not get a call and say hey lets pick on this guy, its been comming for a while im sure he knew what was going to happen all along, but as far as the family and supporters they have made this case harder on the kids...no matter what spin you put on this..no matter what...it is this mans children who is going to have to deal with this the rest of their lives...the supporters seem more worried about protecting this man, who is an adult, and not his children..if the man was the " great dad" they supporters say, he would be worried about protecting them first..thats what parents do.Amy Partanen · Works at Childcare Provider · September 8, 2011 at 5:58am
Guests Checks, and Pete, she will understand when he dont walk away from this, untill then none of them will get it they just dont want to believe that someone they know could act this way or be this way, no one wants to believe that a family member or loved one would act like that.Guest Checks · Comstock Park, Michigan · September 8, 2011 at 8:59am
Here is the second part!
One of the workers, the manager of the home got reprimanded. She was being paid for 40 hours of work, yet working rarely more than 20.
Within the home there is a certain ‘chain of command’ that is to be followed. If there are complaints there is a ’board of directors’ that is to be notified first and foremost, to determine how to deal with things. This was not followed.
Keep in mind the history of the boys/young men, abused, mentally, physically, sexually and lastly institutionalized. One of the boys wanted to leave, he had punched another resident in the face and since this was his 3rd assault charge he was facing jail time, he also had gotten a girl friend near his grandmas home. He is just a few months shy of being 18. His grandma was not considered a fit person for him to live with. Knowing what he did about the ’system’ he and another boy (who also knew the system) concocted a story. They went to the manager with this story and rather than follow the chain of command, she in her anger at being reprimanded called the police.
The boy had accused the man of sexually abusing him. The man was not arrested on this charge. The boy was immediately placed within his Grandmothers home, which is where he wanted to go. The other boy (who helped him with his story) was upset, he wanted to leave too. He then made his accusation, saying that it wasn’t the other boy who was sexually abused, it was him. He was removed from the home, placed in yet another institution. The first boy got in trouble at his Grandmas and was placed in yet another institution.
The home has the records of the history of all of these boys that is why they have a chain of command, rather than just calling the police. Both boys have a history of making accusations such as these. It can be found within their records. One would think that this would be discovered and that would be the end of it. There is absolutely not one shred of evidence that such a thing happened. The stories of both boys keep changing, neither one of them are able to tell the same story twice.Guest Checks · Comstock Park, Michigan · September 8, 2011 at 12:02pm
More depth on this story from the local newspaper. Interesting read, to say the least.
http://hastingsbanner.com/terpening-den ... 934-87.htm[/list]
Mike Boerman · Top Commenter · Langston, Michigan · September 8, 2011 at 4:39pm
Guest Checks - you need to let it go lady. Last time I checked, this comments section is supposed to be related to the actual news story, not your vendetta against a fellow commenter. One might even say your obsession is bordering on psychosis?Pete Moss · GED · September 8, 2011 at 5:48pm
"family" members are probably the only support the guy has, whether they are biological family members or or his "followers"Kate Stevens Chandler · Kalamazoo, Michigan · September 8, 2011 at 6:38pm
The media got ahold of it and susan knows this so why is she so upset at guest checks for stating the facts its the internet public knowledge smh susan.Amy Partanen · Works at Childcare Provider · September 9, 2011 at 5:50am
I read the banner report!! they said one of reasons why they want the dad to come home is because having 8 kids is to hard on the mom!!! where are alll these supporters who should be helping this mom with the kids..and why would a mom ever take on kids any kids if they are to much for her!Pete Moss · GED · September 9, 2011 at 6:19am
what did Mrs. Terpening do when her husband was at the homes? maybe she can have her own tv reality show, Mrs Terpening plus 8Guest Checks · Comstock Park, Michigan · September 9, 2011 at 8:23am
And Amy hits a serious question hard and right.
I think what the lawyer points and and Amy refines in her comment is an average person, especially a mom, has to step back and wonder what in the world is going on in the mind of Mrs. Terpening. I can absolutely understand wanting to back her husband, but reality right now is she has been and will be a single mom for a fair amount of time already, with more time coming. She can support her husband, but right now what is going on in her home is far more important.
Yet one can really wonder if the kids are being put first.
It is interesting because Susan Ward Gillihan responds to a person on the blog by saying, "Several of his supporters have been interviewed and are now being accused of following him like some sort of cult!"
What is stunning is these people are entirely focused on the Defendant. Clearly his interests come long before the interests of preserving the family. This is hard to understand.
She went on to say, "It's a shame, if he had no supporters then he would be condemned for that, those that do support him are suffering accusations. It's one of those 'cant win for losing' situations. We are just doing our best to help him stay strong in this adversity. We believe that he is a good man, that he did nothing wrong and with the help of God will be vindicated."
Regardless of adversity, their kids should be put first. This seems to be missing in the crusade of his supporters.Justine Newport · Waitress at Hooters · September 9, 2011 at 2:55pm
I think this might be directed at you Guest Checks - http://www.redgage.com/c-mjghcd[/list]
Guest Checks · Comstock Park, Michigan · September 9, 2011 at 3:50pm
LOL, it is me, she even got my picture! ROFL, I love it!
I have to love Susie Q Ward Gillihan. There is nothing I can write that better tells the story of those who support Mr. Terpening than to read these wild posts.
Don't forget to read her comments on the, "witch hunt", too.
http://www.redgage.com/blogs/sweetsusie ... eForwarder
This situation is terribly sad in the sense that when you look at the character of the people around Mr. Terpening, these are not people trying to rationally support him, it is all just personal attacks.
They do this man no favors. You would think after the article in the Hastings Banner they would back off and let this go through the courts without all the nonsense.[/list]
Pete Moss · GED · September 13, 2011 at 7:30pm
agree Guest Checks; a supporter who refers to abused children as "abused animals," another supporter (likely close to seventy years old) who puts her fingers in her ears and sticks her tongue out at a witness IN A COURT HALLWAY, these things, coming from his "supporters," only brings his very own character further into questionStacy Anderson Hislop · Inside Account Manager at BR Wholesale · October 12, 2011 at 9:30am
Wow! I'm reading all of the comments and this all blows my mind. What ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? I am a close friend of Mike's, I have worked with him on many projects for the animal rescue and the boys home. I am not a "follower" I am a friend and it bothers me greatly that he is being attacked in this way. Of course I do not believe any of what he is being accused of but it's not because I cant fathom that someone I know is capable of something this heinous. It's because, at my age I have instincts and know, through those instincts that this is simply not possible. If anyone here knew this couple, the sacrifices they have made for their children and the children of others, less capable of parenting their kids, you would not be able to say the incredibly ridiculous things that have been said here. I offer this in closing; this is not an episode of Law and Order, these are real people. There are real lives being destroyed here. If that doesnt encourage you to think and feel any compassion then I leave you with this---what happens when your husband, brother, father, or son are accused of something like this?
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Ursus:
And, from another news source...
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WWMT - Newschannel 3
Man accused of sexual assaults fights to see his children at home
September 06, 2011 6:05 PM
Michael Terpening
HASTINGS, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) – A man accused of sexual assaults against teens is now fighting to return home to see his kids.
Attorneys for Michael Terpening and his wife Amanda have asked the court to reconsider visitation rules.
The judge ruled that Terpening won't get to visit his eight children at the family's home, instead he can only see them during supervised visits through DHS.
On Tuesday, attorneys assigned to look out for the interest of the children argued that the Terpenings are exploiting their own kids.
Terpening's attorney says there are no allegations that his client did anything against his own children and calls into question the credibility of those teens who've told police they were assaulted.
"Allegations are all made from either convicted felons or convicted delinquents," said Terpening's attorney Tom Schaeffer, "17, 18, 19 year old kids who have been in the system for some time."
However an attorney assigned to look out for the best interests of the Terpening kids says he resents the implication that the alleged victims' backgrounds means their word is no good. He says Terpening shouldn't get to visit his own eight children at home.
The attorney pointed to recent online efforts to prove Terpening's innocence as evidence that Terpening doesn't have the children's best interest in mind.
"He's exploiting his children by allowing them to be put on YouTube and broadcasting them to the world," said attorney James Kinney, "allowing petitions on the internet by people that clearly don't have the facts."
Video: Accused of Sexual Assault, Fighting to See His Kids
Copyright © 2012 Freedom Communications
Ursus:
And, from yet another news source...
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Michigan Live LLC
Report: Former Barry youth home director argues he should be able to see his own children
Published: Wednesday, September 07, 2011, 8:52 AM · Updated: Wednesday, September 07, 2011, 10:43 AM
By Rosemary Parker | Kalamazoo Gazette
HASTINGS — Former youth home director Michael Terpening, charged with 11 counts of criminal sexual conduct after teens in the home told police he had had inappropriate contact with them, was in court recently asking to be able to visit his own home and children, according to a report from Newschannel 3.
Video: Accused of Sexual Assault, Fighting to See His Kids
The station reported that attorneys for Terpening and his wife, Amanda, asked the court to reconsider visitation rules.
An attorney assigned to advocate for the children argued against relaxing visitation.
He said a YouTube video of family photos, which calls for viewers to sign a petition supporting Terpening, is exploitative and not in the children's best interest. Entitled "CPS Gone Wild ( Save the Terpenings)," the video had 582 views as 8:30 a.m. today
The judge refused the Terpenings' visitation request, and ruled he can only see the couple's eight children during supervised visits.
© 2012 Michigan Live LLC.
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