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« on: December 17, 2003, 09:40:00 PM »
Ivy Ridge Academy student treated for possible tuberculosis
by Chris Garifo, Times Staff Writer
First published: Tuesday, December 9, 2003

OGDENSBURG - A student at the Academy at Ivy Ridge is being treated for
possible tuberculosis contracted while at the school for troubled youths.
Celeste N. Marcus, 17, is! recuperating at her Cleveland, Ohio, home after
being released Sunday from the Cleveland Clinic, where she had been treated
since Nov. 30.

"She's staying home now, but we have a nurse coming to the house every day
to administer medication and see what her response is," said Didi C.
Sindelar-Wireman, the girl's mother.

State and St. Lawrence County health officials are aware of the girl's case
but said that it does not appear to be tuberculosis, an infectious disease
that attacks the respiratory system and is passed by coughing and sneezing.
Each year, 2 million people die of the disease worldwide.

"This girl was tested, and the initial came back positive for acid-fast
bacillus," said Patricia N. Ward, prevent supervisor for the county Health
Department. "Many things can cause that result, one of which is TB. Further
tests came back negative for TB. That is what was reported to us."

The state Department of Health als! o reported that tests of the girl were
negative for TB, said Joseph S. DiMura, a DOH public information officer.

"As reported to the DOH, tests conducted for flu and TB at the academy came
back negative," Mr. DiMura said. "We will continue to monitor the situation
closely."

Ms. Marcus collapsed Nov. 26, and was taken to Claxton-Hepburn Medical
Center. Her parents then had her transferred to the Cleveland Clinic, where
she was put under the care of Dr. Laura Danzinger.

"They're 95 percent sure it is TB," Mrs. Sindelar-Wireman said.

Ms. Marcus has been prescribed a treatment regimen that includes four
antibiotics that target TB, her mother said.

"A lot of her symptoms are showing it as TB and, rather than wait three or
four months, they're treating her for it now," Mrs. Sindelar-Wireman said.

"She had suspicious blood cultures," Mrs. Sindelar-Wireman said. "She was
spitting up blood."

The girl told her parents that at least eight to 10 other students at the
school had sy! mptoms similar to her's, including spitting up blood.

Ms. Marcus also told her parents that a fungus or mold could be seen growing
on the walls of the school infirmary where she originally was being treated
for what was assumed to be a sinus infection.

"We didn't realize how sick she was at the time," Mrs. Sindelar-Wireman
said. "We went to Ivy Ridge to inspect where she was going to recuperate.
They said they'd show us the boys' but not the girls'. We thought that was
strange."

School officials did not return phone calls seeking comment.

Though Mrs. Sindelar-Wireman said she was satisfied with the progress her
daughter was making within the academy's program, she doubted Ms. Marcus
would return to the school.

"She will have to be on antibiotic therapy for as much as six months," Mrs.
Sindelar-Wireman said. "She'll be almost 18 by then. We'll probably be
home-schooling her."
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2003, 05:24:00 PM »
WWASP begins to see why concentration camp conditions are dangerous in and of themselves.

It was only a matter of time before an epidemic of preventable but highly dangerous disease hit a WWASP facility in the US. They refuse medical treatment until the kid is practicly dead. The facilities are disgusting and unmaintained. There is no sanitation. The foriegn programs have already had cases where kids almost died from disease.

If there is an outbreak of TB at Ivy Ridge which there very likely is according to the article. If a kid dies because medical care was withheld that is negligent homocide in NY state.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2003, 05:32:00 PM »
what's the newspaper link to this article?
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2003, 09:10:00 PM »
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On 2003-12-18 14:24:00, FaceKhan wrote:

"WWASP begins to see why concentration camp conditions are dangerous in and of themselves.



It was only a matter of time before an epidemic of preventable but highly dangerous disease hit a WWASP facility in the US. They refuse medical treatment until the kid is practicly dead. The facilities are disgusting and unmaintained. There is no sanitation. The foriegn programs have already had cases where kids almost died from disease.



If there is an outbreak of TB at Ivy Ridge which there very likely is according to the article. If a kid dies because medical care was withheld that is negligent homocide in NY state.







 



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Don't these schools insist upon a TB clearance BEFORE kids are admitted and require all staff to have clearances as well, as a condition of employment and or state health codes?

As for the consequences for a child dying while in the custody of a PRIVATE specialty school or program, there is a civil wrongful death lawsuit going on right now involving a program called The Ryne Institute (aka Alldredge Academy). Very tragic case of a young boy whose parents allege the program was negligent when their son hung himself.  Criminal penalties were about what you would expect, not nearly tough enough.

http://www.teenadvocatesusa.org

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2003, 01:05:00 AM »
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... forum=9&10

8. We read the reports of the Utah Health Department's two years worth of citations against Brightway Hospital (another Teen Help run facility). These reports showed the same patterns of deception, inferior care and standards, insufficient oversight and "one size fits all" approach that we discovered from our own investigation with other Teen Help programs. This confirmed our belief that our experience was representative of a pattern of behavior, not just a few isolated incidents. Among other things, two teens were sent out of the country, one to Tranquility Bay and the other to Paradise Cove with positive TB tests without reporting it to the appropriate U.S. Health Department as required by law.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2003, 12:57:00 PM »
Where is the direct newspaper link to the first posting?  It could be real or not.  Let's see the actual article before making assumptions on the validity of this.  Thank you.
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2003, 02:13:00 PM »
Here ya go. It appears to be real, however I'm not paying for a copy. If anyone else wants to, here's where you get it.

                                                                                                         
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2003, 09:38:00 PM »
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Don't these schools insist upon a TB clearance BEFORE kids are admitted and require all staff to have clearances as well, as a condition of employment and or state health codes?


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No, students are not required to have a TB test. Don't know about the staff.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2003, 02:04:00 PM »
Get your story straight,  the girl did not have TB all her test came back NEGATIVE.
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2003, 03:33:00 PM »
Yes they have. And yet the medical professionals responsible for her care seem to have deemed it prudent to treat her for TB just incase those negative test results were false. It happens that way sometimes.

So, who do you trust for expertise in communicable disease; the people who run Ivy Ridge or the people who run the Cleveland Clinic?

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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2003, 05:07:00 PM »
Trust...hmmm.  I would trust the nursing staff at the school to do exactly what they did, get medical help.  

I do not trust doctors.  Maybe I should say I don't trust the diagnosis of one doctor.  Second and third opinions/diagnosis are usually the only way to insure an accurate diagnosis, and then that's questionable.  Been there.
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