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Anonymous:
Is that a yes or no?

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-01-10 12:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2004-01-10 11:25:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Well, it seems the death of Ian August could have been prevented except for a bad judgment call on the part of his apparently inexperienced and ill-equipped field counselors.  This kind of mentality is unacceptable.  Parents need to get proactive and demand the highest standards of care and treatment. Parents have medical insurance to cover their children's healthcare needs while they are residing in these programs, do they not?  So what's the problem?"


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Didn't Ian August die in some kind of wilderness program, non wwasps?  Bad thing, but it's a bit misleading. "

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Anon, there have been other "preventable" deaths, including kids who have committed suicide while in a program (e.g. A 14 year old boy who hung himself while enrolled in Alldredge Academy and the 17 year girl who apparently jumped to her death at Tranquility Bay/WWASPS).  Other kids have committed suicide shortly after leaving a program, including 2 WWASPS children (Christopher Landre and Corey Murphy). These are just a few tragic examples of cases where "bad judgment" may have played a role in the death of a child.  There are more.

 :cry:

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-01-10 12:37:00, Deborah wrote:

"***Deborah, was your child in a wwasps program? If so, I'll listen to anything you have to say regarding this program. If not, let's leave it to those that really know.***



Sweetie,

You continue to misunderstand. It doesn't matter to me if you "listen" to me or not. And in case you missed it, I don't believe program parents "know" anything except what they are told and have read. The only thing they are "experts" on is their experience in seminars. And they aren't very forthcoming about that."

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Is that a yes or a no, sweetie?  

It seems you are talking about yourself ** I don't believe program parents "know" anything except what they are told and have read.**

That doesn't seem to be my experience in reading the posts from "program" parents.

Anonymous:
http://www.cslandre.org - Chris didn't get to stay long enough to graduate.  Very sad, but his father created something beautiful from that tragedy... from organ donations to helping parents in need.

Anonymous:

--- Quote ---On 2004-01-10 14:27:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2004-01-10 12:27:00, Anonymous wrote:


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On 2004-01-10 11:25:00, Anonymous wrote:



"Well, it seems the death of Ian August could have been prevented except for a bad judgment call on the part of his apparently inexperienced and ill-equipped field counselors.  This kind of mentality is unacceptable.  Parents need to get proactive and demand the highest standards of care and treatment. Parents have medical insurance to cover their children's healthcare needs while they are residing in these programs, do they not?  So what's the problem?"



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Didn't Ian August die in some kind of wilderness program, non wwasps?  Bad thing, but it's a bit misleading. "


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Anon, there have been other "preventable" deaths, including kids who have committed suicide while in a program (e.g. A 14 year old boy who hung himself while enrolled in Alldredge Academy and the 17 year girl who apparently jumped to her death at Tranquility Bay/WWASPS).  Other kids have committed suicide shortly after leaving a program, including 2 WWASPS children (Christopher Landre and Corey Murphy). These are just a few tragic examples of cases where "bad judgment" may have played a role in the death of a child.  There are more.



 :cry:



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Yes, there are more, many more...but not wwasps.  Great diversion!

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