Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Apologia - Serious debate only, please!
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-01-10 11:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Well, it seems the death of Ian August could have been prevented except for a bad judgment call on the part of his apparently inexperienced and ill-equipped field counselors. This kind of mentality is unacceptable. Parents need to get proactive and demand the highest standards of care and treatment. Parents have medical insurance to cover their children's healthcare needs while they are residing in these programs, do they not? So what's the problem?"
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Didn't Ian August die in some kind of wilderness program, non wwasps? Bad thing, but it's a bit misleading.
Anonymous:
Deborah, was your child in a wwasps program? If so, I'll listen to anything you have to say regarding this program. If not, let's leave it to those that really know.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-01-10 11:36:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Have any of the owners and operators of these programs been awarded advanced degrees in behavioral science/healthcare? I mean, specialty schools and programs without staff "specially" trained and qualified in behavioral healthcare seems like an oxymoron."
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Does anybody know here? I know of many medical centers and hospitals where the directors are not MD's...how can that be?
Deborah:
***Have any of the owners and operators of these programs been awarded advanced degrees in behavioral science/healthcare?***
Interesting. These 1995 articles detail the origins of the "treatment" at BM facilities:
SYNANON'S HISTORY & INFLUENCE IN THERAPEUTIC COMMUNITIES and EMOTIONAL GROWTH SCHOOLS - II
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe04.html
ECLECTIC COUNSELING part 2 of 3
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe05.html
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe02.html
http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... /oe03.html
There appears to be a desire on the part of programs headed by degreed individuals to seperate themselves from the likes of say, programs headed by used car salesmen. The latter are not invited to the private clubs- industry associations- set up by the degreed directors, to spin the illusion that they are different and operate with integrity.
Fact is, they're all more similar than different. The primary difference that I can discern is that the used car salesman charges less for "treatment".
Another difference I've noticed is that the used car salesman is somewhat more upfront with the "abuses" employed, and declares that its necessary for change.
The degreed director is much more covert.
They all know they lack the skills necessary to send home a genuinely "changed" kid without resorting to "abuse".
Deborah:
***Deborah, was your child in a wwasps program? If so, I'll listen to anything you have to say regarding this program. If not, let's leave it to those that really know.***
Sweetie,
You continue to misunderstand. It doesn't matter to me if you "listen" to me or not. And in case you missed it, I don't believe program parents "know" anything except what they are told and have read. The only thing they are "experts" on is their experience in seminars. And they aren't very forthcoming about that.
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