Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Apologia - Serious debate only, please!
Anonymous:
Deborah. I know you want answers to all you linked to on a personal level, but you won't find it in links, or words. The seminars really are something you would need to experience for yourself. If you're not interested in going, but want answers on this forum, doubt it will be.
Seminars: It's a view shared by a few. No one person gets the same thing out of the same seminar. It's different for each participant.
The coaches are hired by the parents during the transition phase, coming home phase. It's not mandatory, but a choice. How wonderful to have that support available. Don't other programs just say "bye" and don't offer much in the way of support once the child has graduated? That would be another thing to look at.
Anonymous:
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I don't know, this whole concept makes me squeemish. Some of these parents have websites that are actively recruiting "options" as you call them. This seems more than just a way to get a much-needed break on the tuition costs of a single child. I mean, 10 referrals in one month would pretty much pay for the child's entire program and then some, would it not?"
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Referral means referral to an admissions representative. It does not mean it would result in an admission. So if a parent is contacted by 10 individuals and they chose to admit, which is highly unlikely, then they would receive 10 months of tuition for their child.
Many parents "refer" but very few result in an actual admission. Most are just looking at options. If you look at the websites, most are not parents anyway.
Anonymous:
True, some of these websites appear to be connected with independent referral agents, though it is odd they only seem to promote a certain brand of programs and schools. Others, it is hard to tell who owns and operates them. I am serious! They are anonymous. No names, bios, just the proverbial test on how to tell if your child is close to going over the edge and needs a program asap. Shouldn't there be a law or something that makes these people disclose who they are? At a minimum, I think parents have a right to know who they are dealing with, don't you?
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Anonymous:
Call the numbers and see who answers. That is who you are dealing with.
Deborah:
***Deborah. I know you want answers to all you linked to on a personal level, but you won't find it in links, or words.***
Not actually. I've read the information and even once found myself in a workshop based on the same philosophy. I discovered this a couple of days into the 8-day event.
I offered the links for those who would like to read previous discussions on the topics, rather than duplicate them in this thread. Worth the read. People should know what they're signing up for.
I have to wonder how much recruiting would be going on if parents weren't compensated.
I wonder too what the record is for number of referrals.
I wonder too if W created this method of referal because the majority of Ed Cons would not refer to their facilities.
Seems to be an excellent marketing plan- well designed ponzi scheme. I don't see parents of other programs hitting the streets with pamphlets, contacting every authority figure and official in their county with information on their chosen program, and for that matter, relatively few of them even post on message boards. They might if there was a financial incentive.
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