Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
Apologia - Serious debate only, please!
Anonymous:
Spots wrote: "She also "chose out" of 3 successive Discovery seminars, not because of anything specific she said, but because of things she would not say. "If you don't say what they want you to, then they say you 'chose out', send you out and you wait another 6 weeks before they try again. You eventually learn to say what they want."
Spots, what makes you an expert on this? What was your experience in Discovery or have you taken yourself to a place of talking with kids that graduated? Doesn't sound like it. You've got yourself so tied up in negativity that I don't think you could find anything positive about anything that you had no control over.
Just an observation from what you wrote, it sounds like you may be using this girl to further your agenda. I think that's worse than anything that she created for herself at Casa.
You may want to learn from what is currently happening with PURE due to the defamation suit. It's one thing to KNOW something, it's another believe something, and yet another to outright state heresay as fact.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-01-05 08:50:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I notice neither of you poor program fools wanted to comment on the months wasted away in worksheets; except to imply she must have deserved to sit motionless in a chair for weeks on end like some catatonic scitzoid.
I noticed you managed to ignore the girl with the scared chin from her frequent hog tieing. I suppose you feel she must've also been diserving of such treatment.
I garentee you; you would not have been able to ignore these things; or able to think it acceptable; before you went threw the seminairs.
And really, do you think the program is going to explain to you, they read your kids mail, and if it contains something they'd rather not explain, they fail to mail it?
There are programs that can treat you for cultic brainwashing and help you regain your ability to think for yourself. You should look into it."
--- End quote ---
Ignore? No, just passing on it. That girl could have chosen to be with her peers, but instead chose to be in worksheets, she knew the rules. And, a girl with a scarred chin? That's heresay. Show me the pictures. This is typical manipulation in ALL programs around the country and beyond.
It's easier for some to believe this without proof and play on the fears of parents looking for reasons to not get help for their family. Way more kids cry abuse than don't in these programs, all programs. What would be more outlandish is to get a letter from your child saying how wonderful it is! LOL!
Anonymous:
"And really, do you think the program is going to explain to you, they read your kids mail, and if it contains something they'd rather not explain, they fail to mail it?"
Sorry, forgot this one - that is one of the strangest statements I've heard thus far, really. I guess no parent would get any letters from their child in the beginning. Every parent I know has gotten the most horrible letters from their child in the beginning. I had many myself that I couldn't imagine if it had been sensored, could have made it through. It was full of the worse language and absolutely horrible statements that were NOT true, but I got 'em anyway. I wish there had been consequences for writing that stuff,but there wasn't because it just isn't true that the mail is censored, at least not in my kid's program. Can't speak for the others, but I do know kids from other programs that say the same thing.
Anonymous:
Let me explain a little better.
From your very first contact with wwasp you have been told that you will get negative letters that might be upsetting; but that its all lies.
You believe this, b/c your kid has so often lied to you.
When the letters arrive, you are already conditioned to ignore all thats upsetting; and only believe whats positive.
So, most of the mail is allowed threw.
However, on the occasions when something is said that is of a more substantial nature; and they don't wish to try and explain it; That letter you'll never see.
Maybe this isn't done in each and every wwasp program school; but it seems to be par for the coarse according to employees who have spoken about it.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2004-01-06 07:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"
Let me explain a little better.
From your very first contact with wwasp you have been told that you will get negative letters that might be upsetting; but that its all lies.
You believe this, b/c your kid has so often lied to you.
When the letters arrive, you are already conditioned to ignore all thats upsetting; and only believe whats positive.
So, most of the mail is allowed threw.
However, on the occasions when something is said that is of a more substantial nature; and they don't wish to try and explain it; That letter you'll never see.
Maybe this isn't done in each and every wwasp program school; but it seems to be par for the coarse according to employees who have spoken about it.
"
--- End quote ---
Careful now, Anon. Would not want anybody do a WWF search on the key word "coarse".
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