Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
WHO THE HECK MODERATES THIS BLATHER?
Antigen:
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Her shield seems to get raised when she's been personally offended, and then you get a long, wordy reply, which depending on how much she's been smoking can be very nasty.
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No, my shield is raised whenever sombody tries to press me into involuntary servitude or whenever I feel the need to stave off the ad hominems in order to get at answer that I want. Ask Nazi. No, wait! ask Artman111.
Actually, I tend to be more gentle, philisophical, maybe boring to you, when I've had a toke or two. If you're looking for an excuse to discard anything I have to say that doesn't fit your views, that's just as good an excuse as any, I suppose. But it won't stop other people from simply discussing the issues and passing on the ad hominems.
WHEN SPIDERS UNITE, THEY CAN TIE DOWN A LION
-- Ethiopian Proverb
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GregFL:
You called me Greg again.
What is your name??
That which does not kill you can make you stronger, but I really never needed to be this strong.
Scott Wagner
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Anonymous:
Antigen,
I understand your position better than you think.
Anonymous:
Eleanor Roosevelt is my name.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-12-14 18:06:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Antigen,
In your parallel the diamond buyer or the buyer of something made in China doesn't know for certain that the item they're purchasing caused the expoitation of another. With Carey, there is no doubt that she took money from WWASP which literally celebrates their reputation of torturing children. Also, Carey knew there were people who might be harmed by what she was doing. If you liker and what she did then I say fine, but wow is that messed up!"
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Ok, if you buy 100 things made in China, you can safely assume that some of them were made with slave labour. Oh, and btw, you know to a dead certainty that an American lost their job when the merchant quit buying American and started importing from China.
I don't see how Carey made any money for WWASP. She took some of their profit and redirected it to, one would assume, housing, feeding, clothing and making Christmas for her sons. If I had a chance to take a few grand from Melvin Sembler without hurting anyone who didn't need hurting I'd jump on it.
Now think about that for a moment, please. One of the big problems I've had right from the get go with legal proceedings against Programs is that there are so many relatively innocent victims involved and the truely guilty have a way of skating free while their faithful chumps take the beating.
Carey didn't know about this industry till she found out that her ex had sent her sons there, what? just over a year ago? I can easily understand how someone in her position might make a mistake in thinking that everyone involved is a bad guy. It is essentially the same reason, I believe, why you have concluded, on spare evidence, that she's a bad woman. You have to be mad at someone and the real culprits are beyond your immediate reach.
Long term, if we can resist the urge to jump to conclusions and attack the easier targets, we might get down to the truth of the matter so that the real bad guys can't run their scam anymore because everyone sees them coming.
That's what I'm all about here. "There ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys. There's only you and me and we just disagree."--Gerry Garcia
Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it ::rainbow::
The worst government is the most moral. One composed of cynics
is often very tolerant and human. But when fanatics are on top,
there is no limit to oppression.
--H.L. Mencken
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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
American drug war P.O.W.
10/80 - 10/82
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