Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
WHO THE HECK MODERATES THIS BLATHER?
Anonymous:
Antigen:
While we may disagree on Carey and the ganging up on Froderick13, there is no disagreement between us about Sue Sheff. If Sue took money to liberate kids and added some huge surcharge as I did read, by the way, in other threads that is 100% wrong. Sheff represents to the public at large that she is the savior of all troubled kids selflessly fighting against WWASP, It's obvious that's bullshit. If she's making money by inducing parents to send kids, already messed up, to torture farms she's WWASP with another name. Here, we agree.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-12-14 16:34:00, Anonymous wrote:
"She testified in the deposition that she went to them. But on the money, I just want to clarify one thing, are you saying that you'd risk making trouble for a large group of injured parents and take $12,500.00, if you were in the same boat as them and they were confiding in you? Or would you tell WWASP, go ahead and get your subpoena. I'd do the "go get your subpoena" plan. I don't like to be told what to do, especially when it's going to clearly hurt others and help the monsters win law suits just to shut-up people trying to speak out against them.
C'mon Froderik, you'd do the right thing!"
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I think Carey's made it very clear that she does not view herself as being in the same boat as the defendants in this case. She's said it over and over again; if you didn't do anything wrong, what are you worried about? Hell, if someone wanted to spend the time, you could search on the net and find reams and volumes of me poking holes big enough to drive a truck through in that argument in different context. But it seems she believes that she wasn't hurting anyone who didn't need a good hurting.
That just seems a whole lot more plausible than to believe that this woman has suddenly suffered a personality transplant and now wants to help WWASP do to others what they've done to her.
The defendants in this case include some of the Trekers. The Trekers hold that they have nothing to do with PURE or with WWASP v PURE. I have a hard time swollowing that. However, I do see a pretty plausible explanation for the discrepancy in their perceptions. They got took by the old "enemy of my enemy is my friend" scam. Since WWWASP hates PURE and PURE makes nice noise about heroically rescuing kids from WWASP, then anyone who questions PURE for any reason must be working for WWASP.
And the Trekers made it abundantly clear that they'd tossed Carey out of their boat anyway and then proceeded to carry out a very Program like smear campaign against her. I don't share the view that everyone on the list deserves what they get. However, I can easily see how someone would have a hard time seeing any difference between this group and WWASP, given what has transpired over the last 7 months.
If only there were evil people somewhere, insidiously committing evil
deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?
Alexandr Solzhenitsyn
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Anonymous:
To the other anon. Your name is what, Mary Tyler Moore or are you Alice in Wonderland, and you just fell into the rabbit hole? Nobody here is owed an apology on Carey and I stand by my comments on Greg. Greg thinks he's Prof. Kingsfield from the Paper Chase TV Series and that tone would annoy most people.
Anonymous:
Here we go, we're going to disagree again. If Carey did one thing to accelerate the process in getting WWASP to the people who made the comments against WWASP it's flat out wrong.
The "personality transplant" did not come by accident, but by way of the twelve and a half grand.
Any way you look at it, it's tainted money.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2003-12-14 17:16:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Antigen:
While we may disagree on Carey and the ganging up on Froderick13, there is no disagreement between us about Sue Sheff. If Sue took money to liberate kids and added some huge surcharge as I did read, by the way, in other threads that is 100% wrong. Sheff represents to the public at large that she is the savior of all troubled kids selflessly fighting against WWASP, It's obvious that's bullshit. If she's making money by inducing parents to send kids, already messed up, to torture farms she's WWASP with another name. Here, we agree."
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100% wrong and 1,000% MORALLY reprehensible. Downright skanky, in other words.
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