Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
WHO THE HECK MODERATES THIS BLATHER?
Anonymous:
Morli, you're a God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous:
12,500 dollars :sad:
Anonymous:
Just would like to paticipate that is all ::drummer:: ::read::
Antigen:
No, you clearly don't understand at all. The "encounter group" format you see is entirely in your imagination. This is just a web forum. You might say it's based loosley on a Usenet format if, anything.
I'm not trying to prove anything. I have my views on the behavior mod methods broadly used in the troubled parents industry. But I have enough faith in my convictions that I think the truth can stand by itself without any strong arming from me.
Here are some of the things I will censor without hesitation: credible threats against an individual; private information, such as SS#'s or private email; kiddie porn or beastiality (thankfully, haven't had to deal with that yet in these forums!).
W/ some hesitation, and after every other means have failed, I will censor spam and flooding because one man's spam is another man's demonstration. It's always a subjective call, so I hate to risk shutting someone down just because I missed their point. But that's about it.
I prefer it if people don't burn up a lot of disk space and bandwidth on personal attacks and obscenity. But one man's obscenity is another man's poetry. Again, I'd rather presume innocence and err on the side of liberty.
I know you're posting again because it's just so highly unlikely that some different person would happen to get the same IP address as you and hold so consistently to the same views as you do. But I wouldn't know any more about you without legal proceedings (which, as far as I know, are not anywhere near warranted) or criminal hacking, which is just something I don't do.
Finally,
--- Quote ---Carey took money, when she could have given the information to WWASP involuntarily and for free. After that, Miss "why would anyone be interested in my thoughts", there is nothing else!
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Again, clearly you're not taking my meaning. I didn't ask why anyone would be interested in my thoughts. Why do you put that in quotes asif I'd said that? Are you being intentionally misleading here? What I asked, and you haven't answered, is who wants to know?
Don't get me wrong, you're as welcome as anyone to post anonymously. But you sure have a lot of questions and few answers. But if you expect me to take you seriously, it would help if I knew who I was talking to. That's just the way it is. You know everything in the world about me, true or not, and all I know about you is what you post here. And, aside from your opinion of some other relative stranger, that ain't much info, ya' know?
To your mind there may be nothing else but your smoking gun indictment. But I see a whole lot more going on here. Are you making money off the ed CON business? Are your kids in a program now or have they graduated one? Do you now or have you ever worked or proselytize for WWASP? What is your interest in this matter, anyway? See, without your telling me these things, I have no way of knowing, except to guess. But at least I acknowledge that I'm guessing and don't jump to confusions.
Climb the mountains and get their good tidings. Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves. When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe. -- My First Summer in the Sierra , 1911, page 110.
John Muir
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-12-14 14:23:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Carey took money?"
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Yes, Carey took $12,500 from WWASP for the contents of her hard drive. She says they gave her a la plata o el plomo ultimatum; take the money or wait for a subpoena. That seems plausible as that just the kind of tone they usually take when they want something out of sombody. Mobsters indeed!
What you won't hear from the defendants in the suit is that they take money from the troubled parent industry every day. That's what they do for a living.
Just check out their website. http://helpyourteens.com All they'll tell you about how they make their money is that it doesn't come from the parents. Other ppl who seem fairly credible have said that they make their money in bounties paid by the programs to which they refer troubled parents. They also won't volunteer any information about which programs they refer these troubled parents to. But they do give the names of the two "escort" services they recomend. It's right at the foot of their front page. Can't miss it.
If you think yourself too wise to involve
yourself in government, you will be governed
by those too foolish to govern.
--Plato
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