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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2003, 06:55:00 PM »
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On 2003-12-18 17:28:00, Marina wrote:

"   Ginger, I have to agree with you about the American educational system. When I was in the States, I got sick of having to answer to numerous questions such as:

 "Is Spanish your 1st language"?

  "Do you live on cabans on top of trees"?

 "So you're from the capital of Brazil? I've always wanted to go to Buenos Aires".



  Dude, was that annoying or what?



But then again, I remember we had only one year of World History and three years of American Social Studies. Of course we can't blame the citizens for not knowing much about international affairs, it's all in the way things are taught to them. Ppl who are well informed about the world in the US are ppl who actually take their own inniciative to do their own research because the educational system won't help them at all.



It's a shame that when you travel to South America or Europe, most ppl who's been to school can communicate in at least one foreign language and in the States ppl don't feel the need to learn new languages because the school doesn't encourage them.  



It's a shame cause the US offers a big variety of resources of information. You can find many libraries and museums, the best bookstores, universities, etc.



The question is "What can you do to change that"? Enlighten me cuase I don't know the answer to this question."



Unless you went to another school besides Elan in the States, don't use Elan to represent the American educational system. The education at Elan that I received was terrible, except for a few teachers. People who got D's in the real world got A's in Elan without trying.
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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2003, 07:18:00 PM »
Yeah right.It was so easy for a d student to become an A student in less then 2 weeks.The school work was like 5th grade or less material, I didn't mine, as long as I didnt wind up in the little red school house and got to watch the sat and sunday night movie I was happy.
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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2003, 08:01:00 PM »
Not talking about the same thing at all, guys. She's talking about the evident result of modern American education. In a word, most of us are total idiots when it comes to any area of interest outside our own professions, sports and pop music. Do you know, for example, the rough population of Rio? I don't remember offhand, but last I looked it was like 5 of New York, or something.

I'm not bragging here. I don't know much either. I try to keep up with things, but there's no one to talk to about it. Until I stumbled onto the net through a back door at FAU, I really thought I was just weird. Ok, ok. I still know I'm weird in some ways. But I mean I thought I was the only one on the planet who was not a politician or an historian or something who was curious about the world.

Ambrose Bierce nailed it; War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. And he kicked off in 1914. It's not just modern American education. I think it has to do with a certain smugness following naturally behind the way we pimp slapped King George and went ahead and prospered anyway.

Bilingual Americans, I think, become bilingual (or more) for the same reasons ppl in other countries do. They have a need for a second language. You can't get along too well in Miami if you don't have the ability and good manners to say "me mira por fumar", which probably meens "I'm looking for fire". But local store clerks know you're trying to get a fair price on a pack of smokes, you're willing to oblige them as best you can, and so they won't send you down to the tourist district where you'll get fleeced for $5/pk.

But I do think public education is a big part of it. Do you know that, not only do our public schools ignore foreign policy, but the ones around here don't do so much as a chapter on local history! At the same time, they want to extend the mandatory attendance age from 6 to anywhere from 16 to 18, all the way to 4 - 18 nationally, by DOE mandate? Kids are not really allowed on the street during school hours, after dark, before dawn, in "certain" neighborhoods, etc. unsupervised by an adult. So they don't meet their neighbors, either, even while they're not in school or waiting for their parents to come home.

Where are these kids supposed to learn the habit of caring about anything that's not in the curriculum, on TV or the hottest fad down behind the grocery store?

IOW, I think the problem we have is broad and well ingrained in our society. But we're not beyond all hope. Trust me on this, at least, Marina. The image that you get of real Americans is probably not all that much more accurate than what the networks tell us about you.

Oh, come to think of it, tell me something firsthand. Is Citrus Canker a big issue in Brazil? Would most people even know what it is? Cause here.... well... here:
http://doacs.state.fl.us/canker/maps.htm

The Florida Dept of Agriculture is cutting roughly 95% of citrus trees from small groves, public lands and private homes and businesses despite loud objections from citizens, some agriculture experts and some civil rights organizations.

The story goes that, In Brazil (which, we're told, is a very socialist, government controled country), they don't take trees from private gardens. Instead, the citrus industry covers all the costs of chemical treatment, wind breakers, loss of infected trees, etc. And that they're fairly kicking our butts in the citrus market.

U know anything about that?

Fresh beauty opens one's eyes wherever it is really seen, but the very abundance and completeness of the common beauty that besets our steps prevents its being absorbed and appreciated. It is a good thing, therefore, to make short excursions now and then to the bottom of the sea among dulse and coral, or up among the clouds on mountain-tops, or in balloons, or even to creep like worms into dark holes and caverns underground, not only to learn something of what is going on in those out-of-the-way places, but to see better what the sun sees on our return to common everyday beauty.
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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2003, 10:58:00 PM »
"Me mira por fumar" translates directly to "looks me by smoking" according to freetranslation.com.

Fumar is the infinitive verb meaning "to smoke" Mirar means "to look at" something or someone. Buscar means "to seek, search, or look for.." Gustar, "to please" (Me gusta por fumar) Comprar, to buy (QuerrĂ­a comprar algunos cigarrillos)

A good one to know: Con permiso (excuse me)
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