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Ursus:

--- Quote from: "cindiford79" ---At the facility I work at we are trained to do certain holds but we are only allowed to touch the kids if they are harming themselves, or others or seriously damaging property, like a window. I have worked there for 4 years and never put my hands on a kid. I can't believe how much they charge for those programs. Money is where all the problem comes. If the programs had to be non profit and could only charge a certain amount you wouldn't have all these places emerging that were only about profit and not actually helping kids. I can't believe that there aren't some good facilities out there that actually care about the children and treat them well.
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Non-profit programs can be just as abusive. E.g., the fiasco currently going on at One Way Farm. And let us not forget what happened to Marvin Lee Anderson.

Moreover, just 'cuz the program is labeled "non-profit" ... doesn't necessarily mean that the admins running it aren't making a bundle off the enterprise themselves.

Curiously, you don't seem to advertise or promote non-profit programs on the website noted in your sig. A website, I might add, which looks very much like a recruitment hub of sorts aimed at unsuspecting and desperate parents, directing them to an assortment of very much FOR-PROFIT programs, edcons, transport agencies, etc., along with a ubiquitous banner for former Daytop attendee James Lehman's "Total Transformation" program featured on every page. Mmm. And I see that Lehman is also a regular "blog" contributor...

Ursus:
Here's the homepage of this program's website:

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Welcome To Te Rakau Hua O Te Wao Tapu

Nga mihi nui kia koutou and welcome to Te Rakau Hua O Te Wao Tapu Trust, located at 129 Adelaide Road, Newtown, Wellington, New Zealand.

Te Rakau is the longest surviving Maori Community Theatre and Theatre in Education company in Aotearoa (New Zealand). A registered Charitable Trust (1989). Te Rakau utilises the unique form of 'Theatre Marae' to work in marginalised and mainstream communities.

Te Rakau also works as a Social Service Provider under contract to Child, Youth and Family (CYF), a New Zealand government agency, to deliver a residential therapeutic recovery programme for at risk Rangatahi (youth).

Theatre Marae is a Theatre of Change, Bicultural Theatre, Political Theatre, and Theatre in Education, delivered in a framework which is inherently Maori.

Te Rakau believes that all people have a right to life that has a balance between the dimensions of Wairua (spiritual), Tinana (physical), Hinengaro (emotional) and Whanau (family).

Participants are taught to think safely and responsibly as they journey on their path to personal wellness. Through processes that include performing arts, Kapa Haka (Cultural Performance), education, life/work skills, and behavioural therapies, participants are assisted in their transition back to family and community.

Participants are encouraged and supported to explore creativity, their Purotu (magic within). Later, they present their productions to the widest possible audiences that include prisons, schools, Marae (meeting place), country halls, remote communities, arts festivals and mainstream theatres.


© Te Rakau - Hua O Te Wao Tapu Trust

cindiford79:
Yes it is true I have mostly commercial programs on my site as of now but I am constantly expanding the resources available. Before finding this forum I really hadn't considered how horrible the programs could be because I assumed all have oversight like they do here in Oregon. In Oregon the staff is who get abused at most of these facilities. Of course I have found that even here in Oregon there was a bad wilderness program. So for the most part this forum is opening my eyes a bit. I do however still believe the truth is somewhere in the middle as with most things and not all facilities are horrible and not all kids who get sent away are innocent angels. I have dealt with some pretty horrible humans in children's bodies. Ones that have molested their siblings and stuck objects inside their rectums and ones that have burnt down their house, hurt animals and done all sorts of really awful and horrid things. I do believe that you can be a fabulous parent and have a really awful kid. I also believe that most of the problems faced by parents with their rebellious teens is the parents fault for being a uninformed or uncaring parent.

I will be adding more content on my site as I want it to both hold the good and bad of what is available to parents. I want to have the horror stories and the success stories. I will never take any money from any facility to advertise on my site. Yes I do have some affiliate links from the Total Transformation but I do need to have a way to make up for the tons of hours I spend on the site. By not taking money from any of the resources listed on my site I want it to be a unbiased resource. It is in its infancy so right now it is nothing more than a listing of agencies. I have big plans for it though.

Ursus:

--- Quote from: "cindiford79" ---Yes it is true I have mostly commercial programs on my site as of now but I am constantly expanding the resources available. Before finding this forum I really hadn't considered how horrible the programs could be because I assumed all have oversight like they do here in Oregon. In Oregon the staff is who get abused at most of these facilities. Of course I have found that even here in Oregon there was a bad wilderness program. So for the most part this forum is opening my eyes a bit. I do however still believe the truth is somewhere in the middle as with most things and not all facilities are horrible and not all kids who get sent away are innocent angels. I have dealt with some pretty horrible humans in children's bodies. Ones that have molested their siblings and stuck objects inside their rectums and ones that have burnt down their house, hurt animals and done all sorts of really awful and horrid things. I do believe that you can be a fabulous parent and have a really awful kid. I also believe that most of the problems faced by parents with their rebellious teens is the parents fault for being a uninformed or uncaring parent.

I will be adding more content on my site as I want it to both hold the good and bad of what is available to parents. I want to have the horror stories and the success stories. I will never take any money from any facility to advertise on my site. Yes I do have some affiliate links from the Total Transformation but I do need to have a way to make up for the tons of hours I spend on the site. By not taking money from any of the resources listed on my site I want it to be a unbiased resource. It is in its infancy so right now it is nothing more than a listing of agencies. I have big plans for it though.
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Wow. Are you SO desperate to build up your "parent/teen coaching" enterprise ... that you will shill programs for free, just to make it look like you have some expertise in the binnis? Geez.

By the way, this so-called infant website of yours is HARDLY "nothing more than a listing of agencies." You have quite a number of full fledged "articles" on programs which have allegations of abuse already hanging on their entrails, some of which even go back for a number of years. Oddly enough, however, despite your claims of "want[ing this website] to be a unbiased resource," nary a whisper of these allegations graces your hyperbolic prose expounding on the virtues and assured behavioral improvement which will take place in these teenage hellholes.

Oh wait... You just admitted, "Of course I have found that even here in Oregon there was a bad wilderness program." Really? Just the one? How long have you lived in Oregon? I guess ya musta missed all the hoopla about the coerced lapdancing going on at Mount Bachelor Academy. And all the drownings at Crater Lake School. Not to mention the deaths at Catherine Freer Wilderness Therapy.

So... where are the promised "horror stories?" Curiously, there are none!  :eek:

cindiford79:

--- Quote ---So... where are the promised "horror stories?" Curiously, there are none!  
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Well I have never experienced these horrors first hand so I would not have them to write unless someone tells me about them. Hence the reason I found this site and have been reading this forum. The articles about the facilities are information provided on their sites not investigations I have personally done on their merit. The hopes for the site is that once I get traffic people who have these horror stories will come post them on the site themselves. I don't want to look like I have a ulterior motive by posting a whole bunch of stories I don't have the facts about. I will post news stories if I find them. I am only one person and the site is just being built. It is far from being complete.

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