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Ursus:

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--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---@Cfontyn: What behavior caused you to be sent to Tranquility Bay? Were you initially sent to some place else first?
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I was sent there for drugs at the age of 15. I started using drugs and drinking at the age of 13. I was constantly saying I was going to kill myself to get my way, and my mother would cry into her pillow every night. I was a monster. I truly believe that she thought this was her only hope for her to get her baby girl back. I do not hate my mother for the decision she made. I am glad that she made it. I still use tools to this day that I learned back in 1998. Maybe I am the only one that was not abused. But I can tell you from the time I was there, I honestly did not see nor did I feel that abuse was ever an issue. Times do change and I cannot attest to the later years cause I was not there, but knowing the director of Tranquility Bay and his love and passion for helping people better their lives, I just don't see how he would ever let anyone like that work there. I had the nicest staff. Very tender hearted, loving and understanding. For the longest time I wanted to go back to work for Jay Kay at TB. I wanted to show other troubled teens that there is a life out there that is not filled with drugs. Initially I was sent to a medical facility to detox under the care of a medical doctor and nurse. I was then sent to Jamaica after 2 weeks.
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Would that medical facility have been Brightway?

Also, although your experience might have been what you think you needed at the time, do you think it's possible that the staff you encountered at TB might have been a lil less "tender hearted, loving and understanding" with some of your peers?

Were all the students at Tranquility Bay sent there for reasons of having lived a life "filled with drugs," or were some kids there for... perhaps... more punitive reasons? Do you think the staff may have been a lil less understanding with some of those kids? Perhaps even right off the bat?

How long were you at TB?
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I was there for a year. Yes this is my experience. I believe all the girls there were sent there for drugs and a life of crime. I dont think kids were sent there for punishment reasons only. Things could have changed after my time there.
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Well... fwiw, a number of people, enrolled in other of WWASPS' programs, have reported that "getting sent to Tranquility Bay" was used a threat or as a means of obtaining "cooperation with the program," so to speak. Sometimes that threat was carried out, sometimes not. But enough people have reported it ... that it seems to have been part of WWASPS' modus operandi, namely, to threaten kids with being sent to TB (or High Impact or Paradise Cove) if they didn't "get with the program."

The kids in question were not then involved in drugs or crime; they were enrolled in a program. The issue appears to have been the program's perception of their attitude.

--- Quote from: "Cfontyn" ---ALL the staff was very loving, stern and wouldn't let kids manipulate them, but very loving. I was given medical attention when I needed it, a nurse lived on site. Yes the medical facility was called Brighway. I never witnessed abuse to any of my peers, nor did any of them tell me anything was happening to them. I was very close to the girls there at TB while I was living there. I would like to believe that they would confide in me if something was happening to them. Like I said I never witnessed or experienced any abuse. I entered TB a defiant girl and pushed my limits, but was shown what lifestyle that entails. I started to let down my walls and realized that I didn't need a life of drugs, sex, and booze to be happy. All I needed was to love who I was and accept me for me and if anyone doesn't like who I am or what I have to offer, that is their opinion and they don't need to be my friend. I don't need the acceptance of anyone and they taught me that. But like I said things could have changed after I returned home. I am just dumbfounded from the stories cause that is not what I experienced at all.
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Clearly you seem to feel that the practices in place at TB brought about a beneficial change in your approach to life. But can you really speak for others?

Do you think it's possible that some of your peers may NOT have interpreted these methodologies as "therapeutic" and may, in fact, feel traumatized or permanently harmed by them?

Do you think it's possible that the staff may have treated you differently, had you not "started to let down [your] walls" and cooperated? How might the staff have treated you ... if you hadn't capitulated with their wishes?

unicorn33:
As a Casa by the sea survivor, and seeing abuse RIGHT in front of me from LUKE HALLOWS sitting on top of a 14 year old LITTLE girl screaming and cussing at her in R and R will never leave my memory, or seeing the girls walk through the gates from High impact, where the WWASPS says they had NO affiliation with them!!!THEY STUCK MY FRIEND IN A DOG CAGE!!!!!!!! I cant belive this! PLEASE PARENTS!!!! THESE PROGRAMS HAVE SEMINARS THAT ARE ABUSIVE AND BRAIN WASHING YOUR POOR KIDS!!! I KNOW MORE THAN YOU KNOW! PLEASE EMAIL ME IF YOU HAVE ANY PERSONAL QUESTIONS THAT I CANT MENTION ON HERE, DUE TO MY FAMILY BEING A PART OF THIS HORRIBLE ABUSE. Spiderkitten3@yahoo.com THANK YOU

unicorn33:
PS I WONDER HOW MUCH THEY PAID YOU KIDS TO SAY JAMAICA WAS PEAS AND FING CARROTS! MAKES ME SICK!

Cfontyn:

--- Quote from: "unicorn33" ---PS I WONDER HOW MUCH THEY PAID YOU KIDS TO SAY JAMAICA WAS PEAS AND FING CARROTS! MAKES ME SICK!
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I was never paid. I am only one person who did not have an abusive experience. I simple just don't understand when people say that they experienced it. I was in the program in 1998. Right when all of this started to come about. I had a decent experience. Learned some things, and use it in my life today. I am sorry that kids went through what they did. I cannot fathom how one person can be so mean and cruel to a child, let alone a child that isn't theirs. I believe what people say about what they had to endure. I am sorry that they went through it. I am not being paid to glorify the program. I am simply telling my story. Was I yelled at sometimes, ya. Was I bitten by nasty bugs in my sleep? oh ya. almost nightly, but I just figured the bug thing was their culture. If I was ridiculed and belittled it was by the other girls in the program with me not the staff. Maybe I am one of the VERY few.

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