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What Are You Looking At?
Xelebes:
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--- Quote from: "Xelebes" ---See, I don't know how experimental it was. It had its funding from the government, yes, but can you tell me what the hypothesis was? What were the controls on the experiment that differentiated it from the previous experiment/programs like Synanon. See, I'm missing something. How does a charlatan like Art Baker become privy to the experimental data and funding that is accessible to the military-scientific community? Art Baker had no prior scientific experience and had no prior military experience. The only way I can feasibly imagine that he got access to the funding was that he sold to the stringholders of the purse that his program worked, lifting directly the techniques used in Paradise House and mishmashing them a bit to come up with something that would appear experimental, but truly was nothing more than charlatanry - nothing different than what we see with attachment therapy. And if you sell it well enough to the stringholder, you can get a lot of fuzzy deals that ensure that the operation can work in secrecy.
Dr. Davidson's Elan is a bit different. Ricci was a charlatan, but we don't know much about Dr. Davidson.
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Ummm... Maybe this is a minor point, but Art Barker *did* serve in World War II. How efficaciously is another story. I seem to remember that he might have gone AWOL at one point, but I may well be remembering the story incorrectly.
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Hm, most biographies I've read on here and elsewhere state that he never served in the army, that he bragged about serving in the army but never actually served. Got a good source?
Xelebes:
By good, I mean better than what I have read only.
Anonymous:
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ajax13:
Right then, case closed. B-mod experiments conducted on behalf of US intelligence ended in the mid-sixties. Neither the Seed, nor Straight were experimental. Art Barker didn't serve in the US military, and the techniques used in the Seed and it's offspring were no different than Attachment Therapy, but they were not the same. I feel smarter from having had the opportunity to take in all the information provided by commenters in this thread. Truly, we are all blessed in having the opportunity to share in this knowledge.
Xelebes:
Do you understand what charlatanry is? Or what being a charlatan means?
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