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Ironwood, Maine
KingBuzzard:
Hey,
So I'm new to this forum. I'm new to RTC's. In fact, I didn't even know about escort firms at all until about 2 months ago. Still can't believe they're legal...
ANYWAYS! My very good friend was recently taken in the middle of night and transported to Ironwood. So I've been doing research on their organization for somewhere around a week and found far too little. I'm pretty decent at digging up information on things and I've hit a wall here. A few days ago I received a batch of letters from my friend and they detailed some pretty disturbing things. Apparently in level one they don't even have mattresses an that's barely even a start.
Please, if anyone has any information on this program. Survivor stories. News articles. Anything. I'm desperately trying to help my friend. She doesn't belong at this place
cmack:
--- Quote ---Post by KingBuzzard » Today, 00:40
Hey,
So I'm new to this forum. I'm new to RTC's. In fact, I didn't even know about escort firms at all until about 2 months ago. Still can't believe they're legal...
ANYWAYS! My very good friend was recently taken in the middle of night and transported to Ironwood. So I've been doing research on their organization for somewhere around a week and found far too little. I'm pretty decent at digging up information on things and I've hit a wall here. A few days ago I received a batch of letters from my friend and they detailed some pretty disturbing things. Apparently in level one they don't even have mattresses an that's barely even a start.
Please, if anyone has any information on this program. Survivor stories. News articles. Anything. I'm desperately trying to help my friend. She doesn't belong at this place
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Try these links:
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22494&hilit=ironwood
http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Ironwood_Maine
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1 ... 818&v=wall
Good luck. Keep us posted on how she's doing.
Oscar:
She is starting at an unheated cabin called Frye. Her day consists of being pushed until she is buying into the program. They collect Sap for syrup in the wood until they have "confessed" to their sins.
At that time she will be moved to the barn where she is tested until they release her.
The original program was started with the help of two people from Turnabout Ranch in Escalante in Utah. Wayne constructed Frye based on exeriences from "Roundy" at Turnabout Ranch. That means sleeping on wood, defunct sleeping bags so the teenagers are kept cold, water has to be collected from a nearby creek or during the winter snow can be heated with fires they have to make from scratch. It is basically a lot of discomfort, so the teenagers would do everything in the world - even confessing to the murder of both Lincoln and Kennedy to move on.
There are no use for violence against the teenagers even some claim that Wayne has done so in the past because it is so cold and hard that the teenagers have no will power left to struggle. Wayne has since left Ironwood and is back at Turnabout Ranch in Utah, but his legacy has stayed with Ironwood.
They state on the Frye blog:
--- Quote ---We introduce a different level of trust back, so they have the choice of following the rules even when they aren’t being directly “watched” to see if they are following. They have responsibilities. They have choices to meet deadlines of certain articles of reading and writing. Whether that is letters home, web letter, newsletter articles, ethnic night preparation materials, school assignments, Book of Virtues group paper, What Happy People know book group papers or simple assignments due to a consequence of some sort. When the right choices aren’t being made their are two options, one a natural consequence or two a given consequence. For example if they chose not to finish one of their chores they would receive a consequence of a demerit (one hour work on Sunday, their “free” day) or a consequence given to them by staff which might look like cleaning that are they missed again for the next week on top of their other chores.
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It doesn't sound like fun. I don't know how long she will use to regain her former self once she return. Hopefully she will - like a lot of the teenagers, have been sent to similar programs - brush it off after 3 months out and return to the life she had before and then take care of any problems she might have struggled with once she is an adult can receive real therapy.
We have no links for survivor stories from Ironwood, but there is one out there from Turnabout Ranch - link
KingBuzzard:
Thank you both so much for your replies. All information that I can obtain is invaluable to me.
As for how she's doing, well, she's not doing good. All the letters I've received are incredibly disturbing (I think I said that already, but still). She says that she feels like a recently captured wild animal, being broken and readied for a show. She does not have access to a mattress, so I guess that does mean Wayne's legacy does survive. My friend and I have sent her paintings that we made and books that we enjoy. She wasn't allowed to keep those. She even has to hide my letters to her so that the staff doesn't take those as well. None of this seems right, but thank you both again. Sincerely.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "KingBuzzard" ---Thank you both so much for your replies. All information that I can obtain is invaluable to me.
As for how she's doing, well, she's not doing good. All the letters I've received are incredibly disturbing (I think I said that already, but still). She says that she feels like a recently captured wild animal, being broken and readied for a show. She does not have access to a mattress, so I guess that does mean Wayne's legacy does survive. My friend and I have sent her paintings that we made and books that we enjoy. She wasn't allowed to keep those. She even has to hide my letters to her so that the staff doesn't take those as well. None of this seems right, but thank you both again. Sincerely.
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How were you able to find out what she does and does not have access to? Are phone calls allowed?
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