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Burp in School and Go to Jail
« on: December 02, 2011, 05:14:50 PM »
More public school craziness. No wonder homeschooling is continuing to grow so fast.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-573 ... it-claims/


December 1, 2011 1:55 PM

Student arrested for burping, lawsuit claims


December 1, 2011 1:55 PM

 
(CBS/AP)

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - A 13-year-old was handcuffed and hauled off to a juvenile detention for burping in class, according to a civil rights lawsuit filed against an Albuquerque public school principal, a teacher and a city police officer.

The suit was filed Wednesday, the same day the district was also sued by the family of a 7-year-old autistic boy who was handcuffed to a chair.

The Albuquerque Journal reports the unnamed seventh grader was arrested last May 11 at Cleveland Middle School after he "burped audibly" in his P.E. class. "Criminalizing of the burping of a thirteen-year-old boy serves no governmental purpose," the lawsuit said. "Burping is not a serious disruption, a threat of danger was never an issue."

The lawsuit alleges the boy was transported to the juvenile center without his parents being notified. It also says he was denied his due process rights because he was suspended for the rest of that school year without "providing him an explanation of the evidence the school claimed to have against him." He was not allowed to call witnesses or defend himself against the burping allegation.

The boy was never charged. He scored a - 2 on a scale of 1 to 10 according to a risk assessment given by the jail staff, 10 being extremely dangerous.

It also details a separate incident this school year when administrators became suspicious because the boy had $200 in his pocket. He claimed it was because he was going to go shopping after school, but administrators accused him of selling pot to another student. The boy asked to call his mother; instead, they forced the student to strip down to his underwear while five adults watched.

He was not charged with any crime related to that incident either.

A spokeswoman for Albuquerque Public Schools said she had not seen the lawsuit and could not comment.
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Re: Burp in School and Go to Jail
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 05:25:03 PM »
A few Comments from the above article:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-573 ... it-claims/

by amerilatino December 2, 2011 8:01 AM EST
    Why does it seem like so many of our dumbest and most inept end up in public school teaching and management??? Is it any wonder why although this is one of the richest countries in the world, the U.S. is now #35 in education??? My first daughter, valedictorian of her class, was told by a school CAREER COUNSELOR that plastic arts concerned ARTWORK MADE WITH PLASTICS. A veterinarian friend's daughter was given time out for insisting that her SCIENCE teacher was wrong in stating that snakes were invertebrates. Several staffers in a Georgia middle school (for which district I work), including the principal and public safety officer, were let go because they were using a vacant classroom as a jungle club motel room. I have seen footage of board members napping through meetings on crucial matters, then waking up with a sheepish smile to take a vote. Education is the fertilizer and the water for the seeds of tomorrow, to think that a lot of it is in the hands of people like this spells a dim future for this country.
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by obbop December 2, 2011 7:45 AM EST
    Well, there ARE disruptive vile spawn of parents who allow the fruit of their loins to run amok and make a teacher's tasks incredibly difficult.

    And, there ARE teachers and often too-highly paid school administrators unworthy of being in authoritative positions.

    Also, the USA educational systems in general are designed and intended to exist as indoctrinators of young minds to OBEY our ruling masters; to be good little compliant citizen-sheep OBEYING always the USA ruling class, corporate USA, wealthy/powerful special-interest groups AND the immense all-powerful bureaucracies and bureaucrats and the minions within (typically better paid and with pensions/perks/etc. better than the masses in the private economic sector)... powerful forces all that separate the ruling masters from the masses of We, the People.

    OBEY!!!!

    One-size-fits-all schooling.

    You WILL obey.

    Always.

    Compliance to Authority (Peace be upon it) always.

    The pegs (vile spawn of the commoners) MUST fit into whatever "hole" the masters have determined you commoner filth MUST fit into.

    And, always, OBEY.

    The masters and their lackeys WILL determine what is best for you AND your spawn.

    Love it or leave it.

    Are you a terrorist or a supporter?

    Think of the children.

    Oh, yes... I WAS an educator once.

    I saw out-of-control brats but saw even more brainwashing of youth by our rulers.

    "There's class warfare, all right, Mr. (Warren) Buffett said, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning."

    "There has been class warfare going on," Buffett, 81, said in a Sept. 30 interview with Charlie Rose on PBS. It's just that my class is winning. And my class isn't just winning, I mean we're killing them."
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by rock0223 December 2, 2011 6:56 AM EST
    The more crowded, the more crazy.
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by MalloryDavis December 2, 2011 5:19 AM EST
    The government does things like this to kids to KEEP THEM IN THE SYSTEM! FtG! FNM! This kind of cr@p is so not right. Strip searching? I hope the family and the kid get enough money-from those who should be sued-to live comfortably for the rest of their lives. I also hope that the people of NewMexico wise up and start fighting this obvious corrupt system. We can't fight for our rights...the government has taken them away...So fight anyway...
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by raifteri December 2, 2011 3:47 AM EST
    Being a former teacher myself, I would like to hear the rest of the story. I guarantee this is not the first time this kid has had run-ins with the administration. Some of these kids are very savvy about the system (which is too tolerant anyway) and they know how to get away with behavior that creates a major nuisance but cannot be considered bad enough to be suspended. This was probably the last straw. Oh, and I'm a liberal, so don't be thinking I'm some sort of right-wing, stuffy teacher. The fact is, there is not much respect left for the teacher in the classroom or the coach in the gym. If the administration went to this extreme, there was a reason and the media is irresponsible if they don't do a follow-up on this one.
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    by Lerianis4 December 2, 2011 3:51 AM EST
        No, the system is not too tolerant and the bottom line, coming from volunteering in schools, is that the principals and others LOVE to go on a power trip.

        I've actually had to TESTIFY IN COURT on the kids side when I have seen the principals and teachers doing that.

        Much more common than a 'out of control' student who knows how to 'punk the system'. In fact, come to think of it.... NEVER seen a case of that, to be blunt.

    by Lerianis4 December 2, 2011 3:53 AM EST
        Oh, and Rafferti.... I do NOT think that you are a liberal in the slightest after reading your post.

        You have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA what schools are actually like today.... I just bet you are 75 years old and went to school 55 years ago, when adults expected children to automatically 'respect my authoritay!'

        Sorry, but the smart parents like myself teach their children that ANYONE, including an adult who is not their parent, has to EARN respect before it is given to them.

by pr_boxer December 2, 2011 2:30 AM EST
    Wow! this kid was completely out of control, allowed to continue the guy may have "cut a fart" or some other dangerous activity.
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    by davo1958 December 2, 2011 10:53 AM EST
        If he had farted, they would have had to taser him and give him a beat down.

by djseavy December 2, 2011 2:21 AM EST
    Better get used to it. We're heading for a police state 100 miles an hour. Everyone that participated should be fired and be held liable in a whopping civic suit. If that was my son, the school would be named after him when I got through with them.
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by AnnieDanny December 2, 2011 12:53 AM EST
    What is this? It's all one side of the story. Doesn't seem like adequate journalism to me.
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    by Lerianis4 December 2, 2011 3:47 AM EST
        Annie, sometimes there is only one side of the story. In this case, coming from OTHER articles about this? The school is WAY out of control and overstepping their bounds, to be blunt.

by gtpillsdotcom December 2, 2011 12:37 AM EST
    Those adults who watched the 13 year-old being strip searched need to be arrested for sexual abuse.

    "Loudest Burp wins" Yes. we did the same. But we did not scare the teacher and principal.

    ACLU are you watching?

    gtpillsdotcom
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    by Lerianis4 December 2, 2011 3:49 AM EST
        No. If anything, those laws should be done away with, those 'used to harass and discriminate against' sexual abuse law, just like the sodomy laws were gotten rid of.

        Now, EMOTIONAL abuse? I can see that here and these people should be arrested and jailed for a few days to get it through to them that they do NOT have unchecked power.

        I'm honestly wondering from other articles on this same case whether the kid was being harassed because he dared to talk back to the administrators when they overstepped their bounds at ANOTHER point in the past.

 by rwsmith29456 December 1, 2011 9:28 PM EST
    Even if he burped loud and long there is no reason to involve police. What did the school expect? That he would be jailed and fined for breaking the burping ordinance? Anyone having a hand in this should be punished.
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by ludvig1-2009 December 1, 2011 9:08 PM EST
    I remember a guy burping in our fraternity. Afterwards he said "Beat that".
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by payback108 December 1, 2011 8:43 PM EST
    Someone needs to take this teacher and the pricipal out to the wood shed as for that stupid chief of police he should be looking for a job along with that dumb a-- cop.
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by enzas_Bs December 1, 2011 8:29 PM EST
    Must have been one hell of a loud burp to scare the hell out of the teacher and principal into calling the police.
    I knew a guy when we were teenagers who could keep swallowing air and then let out the most hideous burp.
    Strange story to say the least.
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by MacDerb December 1, 2011 8:21 PM EST
    What say you, Bill Richardson, King of the "impartial" and "humanitarian" Democratic Party?
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by kansas1946 December 1, 2011 8:14 PM EST
    "1984" Orwell was just off a few years. I think you could still burp safely in 1984. I understand that a kid could do some serial burping that would disrupt a class, but the kid should go to the pricipals office and eventually be expelled if he continues to be disruptive. This law enforment thing for disruptive children, violating civil liberties, etc., is frightening.
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by dknelson353 December 1, 2011 7:59 PM EST
    This is why we should end tenure....then we can actually fire the morons who have students arrested for burping!
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by gadfly65 December 1, 2011 7:48 PM EST
    Capital punishment for farting!
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by kainos2 December 1, 2011 6:51 PM EST
    This is why we pay local taxes - so our school districts can hire lawyers to unsuccessfully defend the absolutely moronic behavior of teachers and principals.
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    by hypnotoad72 December 1, 2011 7:16 PM EST
        Most rightwingers would be annoyed at the child for acting so outlandishly and then blaming the lack of parenting, blah blah blah...

by aChangeOfIdeas December 1, 2011 6:46 PM EST
    The problem is that only one side of the story is being told. Almost certainly there were many other issues going on, and "burping" wasn't what the actual problem was. The kid told his mom that, mom calls the media. The school, however, probably can't discuss the issue due to privacy laws. So the media plays it up, makes the school look bad, erodes the public's trust in school discipline... thanks CBS. Tell me when you get the WHOLE story. NO school in the U.S. has the time to deal with kids burping.
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    by Zann-Zel December 1, 2011 6:54 PM EST
        I don't care how much there is to the story - no kid should be strip searched by 5 adults AT SCHOOL!

    by kainos2 December 1, 2011 6:59 PM EST
        Strip searched by 5 adults while being DENIED the right to call his parents???

    by aChangeOfIdeas December 2, 2011 6:11 AM EST
        Again, there's so much BS in this story so you don't even know he was strip searched. That right there makes no sense, why would you search a kid for burping? We'll probably find out this family makes a living off of law suits.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-201_162-573 ... z1fPznicx4

 by Gimmeafb December 1, 2011 6:08 PM EST
    Good lord, I shudder to think what they would done if he had farted. Ya think they would have shot him?
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by longtree-2009 December 1, 2011 5:53 PM EST
    new mexico must be under nazi rule. the aclu should jump on this and join in the lawsuit against the teacher, the administraion, the school district, and law enforcement. new mexico is part of the USA is it not? or did it secede from the union or was it taken over by nazis? this story is amazing in that something like this is happening in the 21st century in these United States and to a 13 y/o boy!
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by liselle3 December 1, 2011 5:53 PM EST
    Stupid lawsuit, stupid arrest. Parents should discipline the child and teach him to act with some decency in public.
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    by hypnotoad72 December 1, 2011 7:16 PM EST
        And remind them what happens on cartoons and sitcoms isn't what's always tolerated in real life.

by rockcutr December 1, 2011 5:12 PM EST
    Get in line. Follow the rules without question. No scratching or body functions allowed. Do as we say or suffer the concequences.
    Sounds rather totalitarian to me. Personally i feel those in charge are all power crazy. Pepper spray granny and get a free turkey for the holidays and a week of paid leave.
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by GetAGrip007 December 1, 2011 5:03 PM EST
    This story cannot ACTUALLY be real can it? Ridiculous.
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by Overruled1 December 1, 2011 4:50 PM EST
    They just wanted to see him strip down.....
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by gbgentleman December 1, 2011 4:43 PM EST
    Can we bring back the stockades for punishing stupidity?
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by catwoman1952 December 1, 2011 4:41 PM EST
    Ok, all teachers, principals, and aministrators cannot burp on school property, no farting either........Damn, who on this earth can control their bodily functions that well? I have noticed a lot of articles on the Albequerque school system, sure am glad I live in Calif, where freedomt to burp in public is still legal.
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by euge005 December 1, 2011 4:00 PM EST
    What is the most ridiculus thing is that it was a PE class. Sounds like some two bit red neck coach with an ego problem and sad bunch of facist school adinistrators. They are going to cost the tax payers a bundle with this suit's results. Wonder if the clowns will learn anything?
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    by catwoman1952 December 1, 2011 4:43 PM EST
        that's adNINistrators, as in ninnys!

    by Overruled1 December 1, 2011 4:57 PM EST
        The coach probably was pulling for a sandusky...the kid burped...

by nikoskay December 1, 2011 3:56 PM EST
    Maybe he should have let the gas come out from the "other end" and make everyone puke, then all's ok.
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 by Forty-Four December 1, 2011 3:51 PM EST
    I'm sure that there is more to this story than what this article suggests...but don't ask what.
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by ricktrick December 1, 2011 3:49 PM EST
    Another Red state solution to all the worlds problems.
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    by jade84116 December 1, 2011 4:37 PM EST
        New Mexico is a blue state actually.

by Brokennews December 1, 2011 3:38 PM EST
    A burp is nothing to be arrested for.

    Now, letting one fly from the other end might be! My older brother used to rip some that he should have been arrested for!!
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by Quiet_R_Bear December 1, 2011 3:06 PM EST
    Doesn't NM have lots of desert that school officials can easily get lost in? I would certainly "help" look for them just as hard as they are "protecting and teaching" the children put in their care.
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by Zann-Zel December 1, 2011 3:05 PM EST
    I'm beginning to think there needs to be some test - some way of telling these IDIOTS who go off on these power trips thinking they're God himself because they happen to work in a school!

    This is ridiculous! Everyone involved here needs to be fired and never allowed to work with children again! And where do you find FIVE adults who at the same time think its acceptable to strip search a student????????
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    by euge005 December 1, 2011 4:02 PM EST
        And if it were filmed, arrest them for child porn & list them as predators.

by antoniof123 December 1, 2011 3:03 PM EST
    My opinion is take the people who did this out side in the public square and beat them. Then fire them!
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by thejoker12 December 1, 2011 3:03 PM EST
    The spokeswoman hadn't looked over the documents all these months? She couldn't comment because the teachers, principle and police are borderline insane. What can she say about their behavior without getting fired for stating the obvious?
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by cockroachcrusher December 1, 2011 3:03 PM EST
    The Big Government legacy of Republican/Conservatives Reagan and Cheney-Bush.
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    by Mark869 December 1, 2011 3:35 PM EST
        I consider myself fairly liberal on social issues and have been a Democrat since I changed my stripes back in 1992, but the left is just as active in restricting our rights. Both extremes are nibbling away at our rights, often in clear violation of the intent of the US Constitution. The moderates in this country need to put the brakes on extremist agendas.

    by mctrog007 December 1, 2011 3:51 PM EST
        get a life. this is due directly because of bleeding heart liberals like yourself.
        Republicans would have left corperal punishment in place and beat his *ss and sent him back to class provided he had actually done something. You left wing libs are the don't say no, don't spank, don't damage their little ego morons that have caused this problem now the children you ruined with your policies are the ones enforcing their 0 tolerence crap and causing even bigger problems. The next generation will probably just kick them compleatly out of school for not haveing their shoes tied a certain way.

    by catwoman1952 December 1, 2011 4:42 PM EST
        go put on your pointy boots and go kill some cockroaches!

    by Overruled1 December 1, 2011 4:55 PM EST
        by mctrog007 December 1, 2011 3:51 PM EST

        You must have been beaten to a pulp.

    by mctrog007 December 1, 2011 6:06 PM EST
        Overruled1

        Nope, I turned ok pretty good. I have a job, a wife and two great kids. I have had a job other than a month for the last 31 years. Either I my wife or kids have killed anyone, threatened anyone, broke any laws or have done anything out of the ordinary. my kids say yes sit, no sir, yes ma'am' no ma'am and the refer to all police officers as "sir". My oldest son is going to be going to collage on a scholarship and it looks like his younger brother might also.
        Can you say the same?
        you libs don't understand the difference between discipline and child abuse. that's why you, your kids and everything or person your affect is so screwed up in this world.

    by mctrog007 December 1, 2011 6:10 PM EST
        Sorry, spell check re arranged a few things

        Overruled1

        Nope, I turned ok pretty good. I have a job, a wife and two great kids. I have had a job other than a month for the last 31 years. Neither I my wife or kids have killed anyone, threatened anyone, broke any laws or have done anything out of the ordinary. my kids say yes sir, no sir, yes ma'am' no ma'am and the refer to all police officers as "sir". My oldest son is going to be going to collage on a scholarship and it looks like his younger brother might also.
        Can you say the same?
        you libs don't understand the difference between discipline and child abuse. that's why you, your kids and everything or person you affect is so screwed up in this world.


        Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-201_162-573 ... z1fKM8ZuMM

by sdcowgirl December 1, 2011 2:52 PM EST
    I may not be a school spokeswoman so I can comment. What the hell is wrong with these people. I am sure there are more serious problems in this school than burping. I assure you, if you had stripped my kid without calling me, the Sandusky case would look like a freaking traffic ticket.


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Re: Burp in School and Go to Jail
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 05:28:54 PM »
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 1M769A.DTL

Albuquerque teen cuffed for class burp, suit says

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Albuquerque --

A 13-year-old was handcuffed and hauled off to a juvenile detention for burping in class, according to a lawsuit filed against an Albuquerque school principal, a teacher and school police officer.

The boy was transported without his parents being notified in May after he "burped audibly" in P.E. class, and his teacher called a school resource officer to complain he was disrupting her class. The lawsuit also details a separate Nov. 8 incident when the same student was forced to strip down to his underwear while five adults watched as he was accused of selling pot to another student; the boy was never charged.

The suit was one of two filed Wednesday by civil rights attorney Shannon Kennedy, who has been fighting the district and police for years over the use of force with problem children. She says a review of school and Bernalillo County records shows more than 200 school kids have been handcuffed and arrested in the past three years for nonviolent misdemeanors.

In the second lawsuit filed Wednesday, the parents of a 7-year-old boy with autism accuse a school officer of unlawful arrest for handcuffing the boy to a chair after he became agitated in class. New Mexico law prohibits officers and school officials from restraining children under 11.

The suits come one year after the same attorney settled a class action lawsuit against the district that was prompted by the arrest of a girl who Kennedy said "didn't want to sit by the stinky boy in class." And Kennedy says she has a number of other cases she is preparing over treatment of students in Albuquerque by school officials, school police, city police and sheriff's officers.

"I am trying to get all the stake holders in a room to get people properly trained to prevent this from happening," Kennedy said.

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Re: Albuquerque teen cuffed for class burp, suit says
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2011, 11:38:55 AM »
Geezzz. From the just above article, emphasis added:

    The suit was one of two filed Wednesday by civil rights attorney Shannon Kennedy, who has been fighting the district and police for years over the use of force with problem children. She says a review of school and Bernalillo County records shows
more than 200 school kids have been handcuffed and arrested in the past three years for nonviolent misdemeanors.

In the second lawsuit filed Wednesday, the parents of a 7-year-old boy with autism accuse a school officer of unlawful arrest for handcuffing the boy to a chair after he became agitated in class. New Mexico law prohibits officers and school officials from restraining children under 11.

The suits come one year after the same attorney settled a class action lawsuit against the district that was prompted by the arrest of a girl who Kennedy said "didn't want to sit by the stinky boy in class." And Kennedy says she has a number of other cases she is preparing over treatment of students in Albuquerque by school officials, school police, city police and sheriff's officers.[/list][/size]
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Re: Burp in School and Go to Jail
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2011, 11:11:43 PM »
I'm old enough to remember a different, somewhat more sane country.

I hate the direction our Country has taken. The teens I know today are much smarter and more competent than I was at their age, but they are treated like children and I don't see the situation changing anytime soon.

Youth are the only minority left that it's okay to discriminate against. Unfortunately, many youth seem to be perfectly okay with this situation. Were I a teen today I don't think I could function. I'd probably be diagnosed with a long list of disabilities and be on an untold number of prescribed drugs. God help us. The only solution may be a total societal meltdown. It's in times of turmoil and danger that we look to the young to save us. They bleed for us and they do the heavy lifting to pull us out of oblivion. They'll have their day. Maybe they can make a better, more just country than we have.
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