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Ursus:
Comments left for the above article, "Infant found; mother jailed; deputies say 4-day-old baby died of neglect" (by Sean Longoria, Scott Mobley; November 8/9, 2011; Record Searchlight), #s 41-60:


Cynicalone writes: November 9, 2011 2:04 p.m.
in response to buster6:
So somewhere in this article you have found that kind words for this young lady would be what? the right thing. NOT!!!

Not with all the hospitals that this child could have been taken to. But to starve your baby and to throw it in a laundry ben like a pair of dirty socks is disgusting, whether she was mentally unstable or completely insane, or sane.
Including abortion, and I do not agree with abortion as a birth control, but it was an option through planned parenthood.

No excuse for this and she should be treated the same as her child. No food, no clothing, nothing until she shrivels up and dies.[/list][/size]So you pretty much reiterrated the reason why I had to make my point. Its obvious you know nothing about mental illness, her or her family, and generally look for things to bother your self about. Gee I hope you dont call yourself a christian, Id have to lose even more respect for you. Funny thing is, I still wouldnt judge. Your hostility must eat you inside, its a very difficult way to live, good luck with that.[/list]
Cynicalone writes: November 9, 2011 2:33 p.m.
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Roxi writes: November 9, 2011 2:37 p.m.
I am curious as to what her family and the father of this baby are feeling. I mean really the damage is done I know there isn't anything that will bring her back but because she said she "didn't want the baby to affect their lives" I want to know why she felt that. Did the father say or threaten her over getting pregnant in the past, did her family? Not that it would change that what she did was a horrible horrible thing to do because I couldn't handle knowing my baby was cold and hungry, what a piece of garbage she is and she totally deserves what that baby had to deal with no food, warmth, or any kind of care. But anyway just wondering about the thoughts of those around her. Oh and I don't care if she had a mental illness, just because she had said she thought about putting the baby up for adoption and decided to keep her and killed her she was well enough to know she had choices.Cynicalone writes: November 9, 2011 3:03 p.m.
in response to worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...[/list][/size]Just wanted to clarify that us "progressive liberals" eat our children to spare them the suffering of living in a republican dicatorship full of Faux news, Limbaugh, Beck, and other people like yourself you like to spin every story to meet your hateful agenda. Have a nice day, Im going to turn on NPR, there is a cooking segment coming up! :) [/list]
mrbootyscratcher writes: November 9, 2011 3:41 p.m.
"An employee called authorities Sunday to report the find, but the baby was gone when she went to check.

The employee who called authorities reported other employees had said they found the baby Friday evening."

Why did they wait 2 days to report this?malibu1369 writes: November 9, 2011 3:59 p.m.
in response to suvrocks:
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.[/list][/size]Zzzzz. Really? And where in hell in this story does it say this woman is a meth user? Are you so far gone in your own little teeny world that this is always your response? Sadly, there are many countries that practice forced sterilization. Maybe you should move to one of them and leave us patriots that believe in our constitution.[/list]
malibu1369 writes: November 9, 2011 4:05 p.m.
in response to worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...[/list][/size]ZZZzzz... Come on. Progressive Liberalism? Can you please define that as a technical, social term? Don't be an idiot. People have ALWAYS been people. We are all somewhere between good and bad, black and white. I am not at all perfect, are you? You may have not had the psychological problems that his woman obviously has but are you truly perfect, can you always cast the first stone?

Sadly this human, US and California citizen has been charged with murder and could get LWOP in a California prison. I doubt she was lying in wait with purpose and planning for this "crime".

This is a sad case that may well turn out to be about a human with a serious mental disability. Lighten up and stop blaming those you don't like, those you cannot even categorize...[/list]
Potato writes: November 9, 2011 4:11 p.m.
in response to gungal:
There is so much in this story to be disturbed by.
Pretty much any new born thats needs are NOT being met is going YELL bloody murder(no pun) they are LOUD. For at least two days she screamed off and on and No one noticed(Baby girl would have become exhausted and dehydrated and weak) or heard the noise coming from an empty place? Whitmore at the end of Sept? In a vacant apartment? Cold!

Jessica is SICK to keep Baby girl a secret from everyone even the father.
That takes me to my other thought...Jessica is not fat how did she hide her belly for the last 2 months?
The father of Baby girl. If he really had no idea what his evil GF was doing?
Then I feel sorry for him he lost his daughter at the hands of her "mother" in a slow torment and stavation. He must be so ashamed to be associated with her.

All she had to do was set her down at a safe drop and walk away or chose a couple that would have been beside themselves with joy and love...but she "but chose not to".

So SICK, SO Creepy,..TWISTED. SO Pathetic that this woman was so concerned for keeping her lifestyle and that of her bf the same that she was willing to kill her own Baby girl to keep it.[/list][/size]"So SICK, SO Creepy,..TWISTED. SO Pathetic that this woman was so concerned for keeping her lifestyle and that of her bf the same that she was willing to kill her own Baby girl to keep it."

whats even sicker is people are doing this all the time...it's called abortion![/list]
crzyppl writes: November 9, 2011 4:38 p.m.
in response to Cynicalone:
What disgusts me even worse is everyone like you one here who feels they have a right to judge someone they no nothing about except whats printed in the paper along with a picture. Enjoy your drama, there will plenty more for you to be angry about tomorrow. I guess we can count this as your contribution to society since you have nothing to offer.[/list][/size]Obviously you are under the impression that you are someone who is more educated and doesn't judge people based on their actions. I know what made you feel you are on a high horse today, but you are obviously out for a fight. You can come on here and lecture everyone for judging this "person" (a term I use loosely in this situation) yet you have done nothing but judge and criticize. The fact is that I don't care if she has a history of mental illness or abuse, the fact that she didn't tell anyone, tried to feed the baby water to stop it from crying, went out and did things as normal, and tried to dispose of the body after the poor little girl died, makes me think she knew what she was doing, but didn't care. I would feel the same way if this was my family, neighbor, best friend, or a stranger. The fact is that you’re an idiot for feeling you have the right to pass judgment on everyone else's statements while feeling yours are more realistic. The fact that something like this doesn't upset you makes me think you are the one who should not be posting on here. If YOU don't care, then shut up.
She admitted to doing all of these things. Meaning she thought them out had a plan and attempted to hide this, all on her own accord. She thought about giving the baby up but decided not to. Meaning she chose to let this baby suffer and die rather than giving to a facility that would take care of the baby and ask no questions. This in my book makes her a disgusting individual that deserves nothing less than what she gave.[/list]
lametrapper writes: November 9, 2011 5:15 p.m.
hopefully this blog will go away because it is an unimaginable act that i also cannot wrap my head around. i have to get off of this blog as i wont sleep tonight.waganupawest writes: November 9, 2011 5:41 p.m.
in response to worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...[/list][/size]"progressive liberalism?" is responsible for creating that monster? How so?[/list]
beckyp writes: November 9, 2011 5:50 p.m.
in response to worthlessvet:
A sad and disturbing story. Just another example of what progressive liberalism has done for our children and young adults...[/list][/size]How does progressive liberalism have any connection with the fact that she MURDERED her baby. Murder and child abuse have been around a heck of a lot longer than liberalism. Hmmm, I sure don't see how politics is involved in this one... Leave your "worthless" comments elsewhere and stick to the point.[/list]
butterflylady writes: November 9, 2011 5:51 p.m.
What bothers me the most is the thought of a newborn baby so helpless to everything and yet she let it starve to death which has to be a terrible empty feeling in itself, not to mention how the body reacts when your organs are shutting down due to lack of food or water, you know she ate not only those 4 days but everyday since. She has an evil look about her lets only hope she meets even more evil.overlyconcerned writes: November 9, 2011 6:10 p.m.
I love when these people leave their life info open for all to see. She clearly had no remorse with all the partying she was able to do even as her baby was dead in her laundry basket.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1526319439[/list]
buster6 writes: November 9, 2011 6:13 p.m.
in response to Cynicalone:
So you pretty much reiterrated the reason why I had to make my point. Its obvious you know nothing about mental illness, her or her family, and generally look for things to bother your self about. Gee I hope you dont call yourself a christian, Id have to lose even more respect for you. Funny thing is, I still wouldnt judge. Your hostility must eat you inside, its a very difficult way to live, good luck with that.[/list][/size]Mental Illness???? Hello, I have a daughter that is border line special, and she would not do what this woman did. So don't go there and speak your holier than thou idealism.

And as far as judging, You seem to being doing quite well on your own. I have lost a son to SDS and for you that is called crib death. I would give my life for my child, not take my childs life.[/list]
suku writes: November 9, 2011 6:22 p.m.
in response to beckyp:
How does progressive liberalism have any connection with the fact that she MURDERED her baby. Murder and child abuse have been around a heck of a lot longer than liberalism. Hmmm, I sure don't see how politics is involved in this one... Leave your "worthless" comments elsewhere and stick to the point.[/list][/size]The original conservative was probably a parent practicing infanticide when given the choice between which child to feed from the last of the dwindling food supply. I am so glad humans have more or less evolved since then.

Though there do appear to be some major exceptions ...[/list]
suku writes: November 9, 2011 6:26 p.m.
in response to buster6:
Mental Illness???? Hello, I have a daughter that is border line special, and she would not do what this woman did. So don't go there and speak your holier than thou idealism.

And as far as judging, You seem to being doing quite well on your own. I have lost a son to SDS and for you that is called crib death. I would give my life for my child, not take my childs life.[/list][/size]If her defense aims for a mental health evaluation, I say they need to start here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCL-R[/list]
OnTarget writes: November 9, 2011 6:28 p.m.
in response to Cynicalone:
What disgusts me even worse is everyone like you one here who feels they have a right to judge someone they no nothing about except whats printed in the paper along with a picture. Enjoy your drama, there will plenty more for you to be angry about tomorrow. I guess we can count this as your contribution to society since you have nothing to offer.[/list][/size]I find this girl's actions atrocious, and can only imagine that mental illness is the root cause. However, her actions are no less abominable.

What I find ironic is all the "mothers" posting here about their disgust for this girl. Surely she has a mother, or had one at some time, and I wonder how she feels. If you have such compassion for an infant as a mother, shouldn't you have some motherly feelings for a young girl who's clearly out of it?[/list]
gungal writes: November 9, 2011 7:21 p.m.
Sociopath plain and simple.
She needs her tubes tide tightly or put and put away for a LONG LONG time.Anothercynic writes: November 9, 2011 7:37 p.m.
in response to gungal:
Sociopath plain and simple.
She needs her tubes tide tightly or put and put away for a LONG LONG time.[/list][/size]Must be looking in the mirror.[/list]


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Ursus:
Comments left for the above article, "Infant found; mother jailed; deputies say 4-day-old baby died of neglect" (by Sean Longoria, Scott Mobley; November 8/9, 2011; Record Searchlight), #s 61-80:


KatzMeow writes: November 9, 2011 8:27 p.m.
in response to suvrocks:
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.[/list][/size]When where you appointed judge and jury? You most certainly are not "God". You are not only ignorant but a sick individual yourself. You obviously have no knowledge about meth or the people that choose to use it. This poor child is not or was not in a sane and sound state of mind but that by no means says she's an addict. Without any kind of background history on this child there is no way for any of us to make viable honest judgements. I will pray for her and thank the dear Lord it's me or mine that is in such a horrible situation.[/list]
sealaughing writes: November 9, 2011 8:37 p.m.
in response to gungal:
Sociopath plain and simple.
She needs her tubes tide tightly or put and put away for a LONG LONG time.[/list][/size]So exactly where did you get your degree in psychology? Because I do have a bachelor's in psych, and this actually is a classic case of 'pregnancy denial'. Unfortunately, there has been little study into this phenomenon, but this girl meets all the criteria: hiding the pregnancy, refusing to inform the father, then refusing to care for the child afterward. Remember, what she says during interrogation may not actually represent her true state of mind; she might be saying what she thinks the police want to hear, since most of these women are extremely eager to please those in authority, and to preserve outward appearances. This girl is not thinking straight. Frankly, most sociopaths are smart enough to dispose of the body, so I have to disagree with your untutored diagnosis.[/list]
phi1215 writes: November 9, 2011 8:45 p.m.
I've never been to Whitmore, is there a hospital there? I am sure there is a CalFire or USFS fire station there, but it's possible to not think about one of those places to take a baby, a lot of people might only think of an active city fire station....

She could have maybe drop the kid off on a door step with a note like on tv, everyone has seen that, so you'd think that would be a better option.

She must have serious mental issues.gungal writes: November 9, 2011 9:58 p.m.
in response to sealaughing:
So exactly where did you get your degree in psychology? Because I do have a bachelor's in psych, and this actually is a classic case of 'pregnancy denial'. Unfortunately, there has been little study into this phenomenon, but this girl meets all the criteria: hiding the pregnancy, refusing to inform the father, then refusing to care for the child afterward. Remember, what she says during interrogation may not actually represent her true state of mind; she might be saying what she thinks the police want to hear, since most of these women are extremely eager to please those in authority, and to preserve outward appearances. This girl is not thinking straight. Frankly, most sociopaths are smart enough to dispose of the body, so I have to disagree with your untutored diagnosis.[/list][/size]Nope intelegence is NOT listed in the description....
sociopath
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.[/list]
gungal writes: November 9, 2011 9:59 p.m.
oopps for the spellin natzi's
"intelligence"HotGirl writes: November 9, 2011 10:05 p.m.
in response to Cynicalone:
What disgusts me even worse is everyone like you one here who feels they have a right to judge someone they no nothing about except whats printed in the paper along with a picture. Enjoy your drama, there will plenty more for you to be angry about tomorrow. I guess we can count this as your contribution to society since you have nothing to offer.[/list][/size]You must be insane to write this to Crzyppl. We don't know her, but we do know that she killed a new baby! That is the truth! She has given the details of how she neglected a baby for 4 days. That wasn't imagined by Crzyppl. Your post had nothing to offer. Seems like you have major issue's. You must feel it is okay to go ahead and kill a human being if it's getting the way of your life. That's what this girl did. You have nothing to offer society Cynicalone. You just write nonsense to other people who have shown this baby more concern than her own Mother did! She is the victim. She was dependent on an adult to take care of her. She was deprived of that. She is the one who is dead! These reports that "disgust" you are straight from the Police who interrogated and arrested this monster! You act like this is all just gossip. The baby is dead! Quit wasting space with your ridiculous insults towards people who have real, logical opinions[/list]
gungal writes: November 9, 2011 10:15 p.m.
in response to sealaughing:
So exactly where did you get your degree in psychology? Because I do have a bachelor's in psych, and this actually is a classic case of 'pregnancy denial'. Unfortunately, there has been little study into this phenomenon, but this girl meets all the criteria: hiding the pregnancy, refusing to inform the father, then refusing to care for the child afterward. Remember, what she says during interrogation may not actually represent her true state of mind; she might be saying what she thinks the police want to hear, since most of these women are extremely eager to please those in authority, and to preserve outward appearances. This girl is not thinking straight. Frankly, most sociopaths are smart enough to dispose of the body, so I have to disagree with your untutored diagnosis.[/list][/size]"This girl is not thinking straight"
Huh girl? 23 yo? sounds like a woman not much of one.[/list]
Lillybee writes: November 9, 2011 10:56 p.m.
in response to sealaughing:
So exactly where did you get your degree in psychology? Because I do have a bachelor's in psych, and this actually is a classic case of 'pregnancy denial'. Unfortunately, there has been little study into this phenomenon, but this girl meets all the criteria: hiding the pregnancy, refusing to inform the father, then refusing to care for the child afterward. Remember, what she says during interrogation may not actually represent her true state of mind; she might be saying what she thinks the police want to hear, since most of these women are extremely eager to please those in authority, and to preserve outward appearances. This girl is not thinking straight. Frankly, most sociopaths are smart enough to dispose of the body, so I have to disagree with your untutored diagnosis.[/list][/size]I tend to agree with you. By saying that I am not excusing what she did. It was a horrible thing that she did and she should be punished.

I understand why she probably couldn't admit to herself that she was pregnant.

Her parents sent her to this school when she was 17 for whatever reason. This is a very conservative Christian "reform" school. For example, only Christian or classical music is allowed. Only Christian TV is allow. I am sure that they teach any physical contact before marriage is forbidden. After she finished the school, she was kept on as a staff member. Staff is also required to keep all the rules.

I don't believe that staff is allowed to drive into Redding alone and access to cars is limited.

I can understand why she hid the pregnancy and baby. I don't know she there was anyone that she could talk to about this.

IMHO this school knows more that they are saying.[/list]
right1baby writes: November 9, 2011 11:08 p.m.
she should not get life without parole. she deserves life with no food until she dies of starvation like that poor baby did. i don't understand these women who kill their babies. instead of teaching gay history, maybe schools should teach "DON'T KILL YOUR CHILDREN"Transfer_Master writes: November 9, 2011 11:14 p.m.
WOW, I can't stand it when my puppy is hungry. HOW could ANYONE, just leave a BABY, in a basket, let it die. Again... WOW. The doorbell rings, a woman answers,,, A BABY! Our wish was granted! Let's Call it..... Happy endings to all.Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 8:24 a.m.
in response to HotGirl:
You must be insane to write this to Crzyppl. We don't know her, but we do know that she killed a new baby! That is the truth! She has given the details of how she neglected a baby for 4 days. That wasn't imagined by Crzyppl. Your post had nothing to offer. Seems like you have major issue's. You must feel it is okay to go ahead and kill a human being if it's getting the way of your life. That's what this girl did. You have nothing to offer society Cynicalone. You just write nonsense to other people who have shown this baby more concern than her own Mother did! She is the victim. She was dependent on an adult to take care of her. She was deprived of that. She is the one who is dead! These reports that "disgust" you are straight from the Police who interrogated and arrested this monster! You act like this is all just gossip. The baby is dead! Quit wasting space with your ridiculous insults towards people who have real, logical opinions[/list][/size]and Im the one with issues...lol. By the way those "logical opinions" are emotional reactions. Thanks for the laugh.[/list]
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 8:33 a.m.
in response to buster6:
Mental Illness???? Hello, I have a daughter that is border line special, and she would not do what this woman did. So don't go there and speak your holier than thou idealism.

And as far as judging, You seem to being doing quite well on your own. I have lost a son to SDS and for you that is called crib death. I would give my life for my child, not take my childs life.[/list][/size]Hey Buster, when you respond to response go ahead and read the previous thread. I never said she had any mental illness.
If its all the same, it doesnt matter what your daughter has, disease of the brain do not always predict behavior.
As far as my judgment, I would only condemn those who are taking issue with this woman. Funny how folks dont like the finger being pointed at them. I quite frankly dont care what anyone thinks of me on here. Ability to read, comprehend and empathize seems to be limited and apparent by the lack of questions being asked.[/list]
gungal writes: November 10, 2011 10:42 a.m.
in response to Cynicalone:
Hey Buster, when you respond to response go ahead and read the previous thread. I never said she had any mental illness.
If its all the same, it doesnt matter what your daughter has, disease of the brain do not always predict behavior.
As far as my judgment, I would only condemn those who are taking issue with this woman. Funny how folks dont like the finger being pointed at them. I quite frankly dont care what anyone thinks of me on here. Ability to read, comprehend and empathize seems to be limited and apparent by the lack of questions being asked.[/list][/size]"As far as my judgment, I would only condemn those who are taking issue with this woman"
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LoL you are judging anyone who does not have your own twisted...judgment. LoL
As in:
"Ability to read, comprehend and empathize seems to be limited and apparent by the lack of questions being asked."

And why do you take the time to post that if you don't care what people think...why are you putting down everyone elses intelligence?[/list]
Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 11:29 a.m.
in response to gungal:
"As far as my judgment, I would only condemn those who are taking issue with this woman"
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LoL you are judging anyone who does not have your own twisted...judgment. LoL
As in:
"Ability to read, comprehend and empathize seems to be limited and apparent by the lack of questions being asked."

And why do you take the time to post that if you don't care what people think...why are you putting down everyone elses intelligence?[/list][/size]Wow a question! I will address this.

I am not judging anyone who doesnt share my point of view, that is an assumption on your part.It is fair to say that I am being extremely critical of those crying crocodile tears and condemning this woman based on what written in this story. They have no right to do so.
There is a very big difference between caring about what people think and caring what they think about me as I stated. I am only responding to the folks that have responded to me. It seems they are driven by emotions not intelligence since they keep reitterating the case, focusing on the suffering of the child, and cursing the woman with out having anything to add...except of course to make assumptions about my twisted judgement.[/list]
Vegigardener writes: November 10, 2011 12:27 p.m.
Hey wait a minute. This woman continued on with her work. She had the ability to fool everyone around her. She allowed her baby to languish for four days until this tiny baby girl died. She had the wherewithal to hide her daughter for weeks after she died.

So according to all you arm chair physiatrists she was so mentally ill she did not know what she was doing? However she was not so ill to continue on with her daily life as if nothing had happened?
Give me a break.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THE MOST INNOCENT DIED.Cynicalone writes: November 10, 2011 1:06 p.m.
Thanks for repeating the facts in the case. Who is the armchair psychiatrist(s) you are referring to and you figured out the result of story all by yourself..congratulations.rocksquatter writes: November 10, 2011 3:30 p.m.
in response to suvrocks:
This woman obviously has no feelings of guilt - a typical sign of meth abuser. I wonder if we will know if she is/was a meth user. Once meth kills that part of the brain, it will not recover, and all you get is apathy. So very sad - this woman NEEDS to be sterilized - as do most meth users.[/list][/size]Well you're just a bundle of compassion and insigthfulness aren't you. Who do you think you are ...oh wait you've already demostrated that answer haven't you? You've already been the judge and the jury. Just one more task for you suvrocks....a little walk on water should do it for me. Meet you at the plunge and you can show me how rightous you really are (instead of how rightous you think you are...that I've already seen). Just a quick dash across the deep end will do in establishing you as the God you act like you believe you are.[/list]
rocksquatter writes: November 10, 2011 3:40 p.m.
in response to suku:
If her defense aims for a mental health evaluation, I say they need to start here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCL-R[/list][/list][/size]If you're citing wikipedia as a creditable source you have already failed to make your point.[/list]
Portia writes: November 10, 2011 4:52 p.m.
She could have brought the baby in to one of the local emergency room's and dropped her off with no questions asked...Sad.thumper6977 writes: November 10, 2011 6:53 p.m.
I just got to wondering...WHO is the father? Is it her boyfriend that she was trying to hide it from? Was she trying to protect him? OR....

Where they afraid of having to pay child support for the next 18 years????

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Awake:
I’m not sure how to comment on this. There is not a word that properly emphasizes how disturbing this story is. How did Julian Youth Academy not notice their staff was hiding her pregnancy? She was able to hide the baby on campus, dehydrating and starving it to death, burying it on campus, and no one raised an eyebrow? Can this program retain any morality by suggesting it should remain operational in light of what was allowed to happen on their watch? Unfathomable.

Ursus:
Comments left for the above article, "Infant found; mother jailed; deputies say 4-day-old baby died of neglect" (by Sean Longoria, Scott Mobley; November 8/9, 2011; Record Searchlight), #s 81-83:


thumper6977 writes: November 10, 2011 6:54 p.m.
(I hate auto-correct!)Anothercynic writes: November 11, 2011 6:25 a.m.
in response to right1baby:
she should not get life without parole. she deserves life with no food until she dies of starvation like that poor baby did. i don't understand these women who kill their babies. instead of teaching gay history, maybe schools should teach "DON'T KILL YOUR CHILDREN"[/list][/size]Let me guess.....Fundamentalist Christian?[/list]
juniormint121 writes: November 14, 2011 2:30 p.m.
you are hearing one side of the story the prosecutions . you havent heard her story or her families. you know nothing about this lady so keep your comments until you hear both sides

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Ursus:

--- Quote from: "Awake" ---I’m not sure how to comment on this. There is not a word that properly emphasizes how disturbing this story is. How did Julian Youth Academy not notice their staff was hiding her pregnancy? She was able to hide the baby on campus, dehydrating and starving it to death, burying it on campus, and no one raised an eyebrow? Can this program retain any morality by suggesting it should remain operational in light of what was allowed to happen on their watch? Unfathomable.
--- End quote ---
She never did bury it. She kept the baby hidden in a laundry basket for about a month and a half after she died, moving her at least once at some point due to discovery by one or more staff members.

A few comments by "StalwartVet" on one of these last two articles from the Record Searchlight lend some insight. StalwartVet was apparently a former coworker and also had a child out of wedlock, and saw fit to point out that the pressure and condemnation by Julian Youth Academy for being in said circumstances was really quite extreme. StalwartVet appears to be a male, and is now married to the mother of his child. I imagine the pressure on him would have been considerably less (than that possibly experienced by Jessica Bradford) given his gender and the nature of the conservative Christian teachings espoused by JYA. I don't know this for certain, this is strictly speculation on my part, but I tend to think it has some bearing.

Also having some bearing (imo) is the fact that Jessica Bradford was a former student at Julian Youth Academy. I'm not sure how much (if any) time intervened between that time and when she became a staff member, but I do think it may have had some impact on her reasoning skills and ability to parse the relative importance of certain difficult decisions. I'm not saying that it in any way excuses what she did, but I do think it has contextual importance. For all anyone knows, she may still be experiencing a prolonged state of PTSD along with all its warping and emotionally crippling effects. It may have been the case that, for Jessica Bradford, subjugation to the "therapeutic" milieu had no end in sight.

Just sayin'... and just my 2¢, fwiw...

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