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Re: Courthouse News/ Boy Scout Boot Camp Abuses!
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2011, 06:16:12 PM »
but ask your self isn't there more than 2 students enrolled in that program??
i mean after more than 4 years why only this two??


I was a parent that work closely with this and many other programs and i personally think it's a great program that has helped many students including my own daughter and
this article to me seems a bit stretched out leaving out many important facts and honestly a lie can get halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to even be heard.]
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Re: Courthouse News/ Boy Scout Boot Camp Abuses!
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2011, 12:37:23 AM »
I could certainly need more background information so the Fornits Wiki records on both program  - 180 Recon and About face cadet corps.

How many young people can attend the program at a certain time?
When were they founded?
What do the AFCC aftercare program consist of?
Where do the boot camp itself take place?
Are the Facebook groups for the young people who have been forced into them?
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Re: Courthouse News/ Boy Scout Boot Camp Abuses!
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2011, 10:43:08 PM »
Quote from: "ANOM"
So I found this article while searching for Boot Camp Programs and it's interesting how after two years it's finally up but i thought i should point out certain information because it seems not only unfair for the director to be the only to take the hit for this incident but also because I think it's only right for the public to know. It was right about 8 different instructors working with him at the time like Gunny Avila and and Sergeant Gamma who were actually the instructors who picked up those two students for that particular camp and right after 180 Degree Recon was facing charges (well a month or two) Gunny Avila decided to leave as well as Sergeant Gamma and a few other Sergeants for unknown reasons now im not here to point fingers but honestly why would you leave after claiming you were one of the founding fathers of this program and 5 months later decide to make your own program??? which by the way is named "About Face Cadet Corps" or AFCC look it up if you don't believe me ww.afcc1.com oh and compare both program you'll find extreme similarities between the two programs but im just trying to make it clear for the public to have it's own



but ask your self isn't there more than 2 students enrolled in that program??
i mean after more than 4 years why only this two??

and no I don't give anyone any permission what so ever to re-post, edit, or copy my post

I was a parent that work closely with this and many other programs and i personally think it's a great program that has helped many students including my own daughter and
this article to me seems a bit stretched out leaving out many important facts and honestly a lie can get halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to even be heard.]
Whether or not it is "unfair for the director to be the only to take the hit for this incident," what is it about this program's philosophy or modus operandi that allowed these abuses to occur? Who, indeed, should ultimately take responsibility for " 'corporal punishment and other physical abuse, including blows to the head ... emotional and psychological abuse and humiliation,' hooding, and denial of sleep, food, water and medical care - even after one child began urinating blood?"

How, do tell, has experiencing or witnessing this kind of behavior "helped" your daughter?
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Re: Courthouse News/ Boy Scout Boot Camp Abuses!
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2011, 12:45:07 AM »
Ive followed this case really closely, even got the sheriffs report.
One, 180 recon continues to get child abuse reports. and they are all similair to the first two cases,
the original police report doesn not claim gunny avila picked the kids up, they got picked up by a red truck which at the time one of the other
head instuctors owned.
as for afcc, they've been running the program for 2 years now and yet havnt gotten any child abuse report.
I belive that says a lot about a program.
Just my opinion..
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Re: Courthouse News/ Boy Scout Boot Camp Abuses!
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2011, 12:55:54 AM »
It more than likely means the program has gotten more clever at hiding abuse over the last 2 years.
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Update - arrests made
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2013, 05:36:15 AM »
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Edgar Alvarado, Ruben Romero Arrested For Allegedly Abusing Teens At Boot Camp (VIDEO)
The Huffington Post, March 24, 2013

Boot camp for troubled youth is a place where parents send their teenagers to be disciplined. Not to be beat up.

But two instructors, Edgar Alvarado, 36, and Ruben Romero, 21, at an East Los Angeles-based juvenille boot camp, 180 Degree Recon, have been arrested for allegedly hitting, kicking and dragging youth, ABC reports. Some of the teenagers allegedly had to go to the hospital with serious life-threatening injuries.

The two men were arrested on suspicion of abusing 11 juveniles -- nine male and two female -- between the ages of 12 and 17, the LA Sheriff's Department announced Wednesday. One of the girls also alleged that she was inappropriately touched by Alvarado.

The investigation into the camp began a year ago when one teenager allegedly went to the hospital with serious internal injuries, CBS reports. During the investigation, nine boys and two girls came forward saying they were also beaten, police said.

“Any assault on a child is serious but this definitely rose to the level of a felony,” Scott said to CBS of the hospitalized camper.

Alvarado is charged with three felony counts of causing great bodily injury on a child, one felony count of corporal injury on a child and one felony count of sexual battery. He is being held in lieu of $480,000 bail and is scheduled to appear in court March 28.

Romero faces three misdemeanor battery charges and is out on bail.

The camp kidnaps kids from their homes in the middle of the night, with consent of the parents. According to its website, the "paramilitary" program begins with “breaking [campers] down in order to build them back up." Kids who go there may have a bad attitude, bad grades, use drugs or exhibit violent or disrespectful behavior. Recon 180 is supposed to give teenagers a 180-degree turn in their lives and instill some “good old-fashioned morals,” the site says.

"This isn't a scared straight [SIC]. This is abuse. These kids were seriously injured and this type of stuff needs to stop," LASD Sgt. Dan Scott told ABC.

Detectives believe there may be more victims out there and are asking anyone with information to come forward.

Last year, a boot camp run by the LAPD came under fire when a video emerged of officers taunting kids; one child in the video appears to be only about five or six years old.

In 2011, a disturbing video (watch below) at a teen boot camp in Pasadena emerged of instructors screaming at a young boy as he was forced to hold a heavy car tire. The boy was brought to his knees as he cried and was terrorized by four adults. Separately, the operator of the camp, Kelvin "Sgt. Mac" McFarland, was charged in March with sexual penetration by a foreign object, forcible rape and oral copulation of two 14-year-old girls.