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Comments left for the above article, "14-Year-Old Shot, Killed By Police Officer Identified" (by KSAT News staff with Stephanie Serna and Isis Romero; Nov. 15, 2010; KSAT), #s 126-150:


Billy · 9 months ago
Everyone that has comments about this story whether you are for it or against it. "TURN" it the other way around. If the officer was shot by the 14yr old what would you say???Sumerian_Man · 9 months ago
terro8 has a feeble mind and can't comprehend that these little thugs just progress to worse crimes as they get older and cop killing. He especially hates when he is wrong (which happens every time he makes or responds to comments. He fell out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way downlakers7 · 9 months ago
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john17000 · 9 months ago in reply to lakers7
AMEN TO THAT, IT JUST SAVED THE TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY.[/list]
Mrhu1 · 9 months ago
yes bad kid blah blah, so now they could
go kill all 14 yr olds with bad records. Or
forgetting the fact that either their armed
or unarmed. yes NISD will say that a17
yr veteran follows policys, and yell police!
17 yrs at a job you need a reason to fire
a weapon. we people that commented
weren't there if he followed rules and procedures.
the bottom line he shot an unarmed suspect.Mrhu1 · 9 months ago
And by the way police get paid for the responsiblities.
they get paid to know when to shoot. Or
use deadly force.jrod · 9 months ago
In order to end up at the Juvenile Justice Academy (JJA) you got mess up bad and repeatedly. Thats means you blew a 3rd and 4th chance at regular school. You messed up 3rd and 4th chance at alternative then you end up at JJA. The whole way making the teaches and staff misserable.Rabble_Rouser_Extraordinaire · 9 months ago
A terrible thing for both parties. Best wishes and prayers to all.big_pun · 9 months ago
It's amazes me how all these NISD employees are coming on here and bashing this 14 year old kid. Remeber after all his is still a kid no matter how bad his record is or how big his appearance may seem. Where's your compassion and sympathy for your job. I'm assuming all you that are siding with the officer are also setting precedence for child abuse. What happen to the days when teachers really cared about students no matter how bad they were.lenny66 · 9 months ago
KSAT. You are getting as bad as WOAI on your personal censorship issues. My post was not derogatory or disrespectful. I stated my personal perspective on this issue and you removed my post. If you are going to be doing this, might as well just stop asking for readers input on any story. Thanx for nothing. Lenny66shadeth · 9 months ago
News Flash to the mom: "good kids" don't run from the cops.john17000 · 9 months ago in reply to shadeth
Good kids don't get kicked out of all these schools either. No wonder he is in trouble, If this is the mom's example of a good kid ,then no wonder he got into trouble, with a mother that stupid, HELLOOOOO MOM WAKE THE HE** UP. Where is the daddy in this? IN JAIL?[/list]
vinnie1 · 9 months ago
I don't think that this child -- yes, he is still a child -- intentionally wanted to hit the officer in the face with the shed door. And even IF he was trying to hit him with the door that put the officer in fear for his life? Obviously the officer knew that this CHILD was UNARMED since he had already witnessed him assaulting someone. And what I don't understand is why couldn't the officer have shot him in the leg or arm and not the torso? I have seen PLENTY of SCHOOL "POLICE" and many of them do not seem well trained . . . . in anything. My condolences to this boy's family. May your son rest in peace.sainsanantonio · 9 months ago
"Good Kid?" Apparently not.
Yes, I feel bad he died but the officer had the right to defend himself. Also, if he is such a "good kid" as his mother puts it, then why was he expelled from Middle School AND then from an alternative school? This is a great example of this type of parents with their bleeping head stuck in the sad and just don't have a clue.lakers7 · 9 months ago in reply to sainsanantonio
Ditto...
We wouldn't even be on here or this articule of him if he was a good little boy.[/list]
lakers7 · 9 months ago
One more time
Still a Thug, Punk, and Trouble maker.
ONE LESS OFF THE STREETSlove44 · 9 months ago
Its hard to believe that there are so many cold hearted people in this world that dont stop and think that this CHILD that you are speaking of has a mother ,father and family that does love him no matter what circumstances the CHILD may have as we would do with all of our loved ones. Judgment is only to be brought by one person and that is NONE of us. It saddens me that just because your child may not have the same issuses as this CHILD you are quick to judge someone elses CHILD. So for any negative comments shared I pray for you just as much as I pray for the family for you not know what you say until your judgement day comes!jbjaybird1 · 9 months ago in reply to love44
So you are saying that it is just fine for this poor young man to go around beating up other kids and then trying to kill a police officer. PRAY all you want - it will do no good because there is really no one to hear you.lakers7 · 9 months ago in reply to love44
I think this Punk's Judgement Day came and went.
And God was watchingTrue-Native-Texan · 9 months ago in reply to love44
Well bless your bleeding liberal tree hugging heart.[/list]
Tony · 9 months ago
I hate the fact that a kid was shot in this. If I were to have children, I would cry for my little baby, too. I carried him in my arms, after all, when he was little. He was so loving!

However, none of this love matters out in the real world. I don't like the fact he was shot, but in today's world, ANYONE could be carrying something deadly. If I were to be a police officer, I would not want to be killed, regardless of the criminal's age. The kid could've gotten a MACHETE from the shed and could've killed the cop. The cop did not know the rap sheet of this kid, so that was not a factor in the shooting. The cop was fearing for his life.

As for the family, I have questions: Why was this kid expelled? You know, you don't get expelled for little bad things; I'm sure he did VERY bad things. Why didn't the family do anything to stop him from doing bad things. Why was he removed from an alternative school? What the heck did this kid do to be removed from a school dedicated to straighten him out? It seems he was way out of control, even for alternative school staff! For him to go to a Juvenile Detention Academy?? Whoa!! Where was the family? Where were the parents? Didn't the family see this coming? What happened, mom? I know you cry for his death, but why did your son do to be given chance after chance, but to no solution, other than a detention academy? Why didn't you do something??

Alot of us say "good riddance" because we work HARD for our small possessions, only to be stolen by a kid like yours. I grew up poor and worked my way up. I wouldn't want your kid to be stealing what I worked hard for, and it looked like he was headed that way (to being a burglar). Where were you, mom, to straighten him up? Social programs work, but they ONLY work if he has the support at home. For him to go from school to school, it seems as if the family spared the rod all this time. I'm sorry for your loss, but you knew his death was going to come; it was just a matter of WHO would be the one shooting him. Unfortunately, it happened to be the cop getting blood in his hands.Mrhu1 · 9 months ago
well these school police are sapd rejects
for A reason!!!lenny66 · 9 months ago
To all those complaining about the negative comments I propose this question to you.
What if this "Little Angel" were beating up your "Little Angel" would you still be sympathetic to his case??? I think not. What if this "Little Angel" were breaking in to your tool shed to steal your lawnmower or weed eater, would you still be sympathetic to his case??? I think not. This "14 year old Angel" was removed from 2 different schools and placed in a court mandated school for "Troubled students", is this kid still on your "Christmas" list??? I think not. See it for what it is, if it didn't happen now it would happen later on and maybe your "Little Angel" would get caught up in his actions. No matter what Mom thinks and says about "Mejo", the boy was going nowhere fast. Good thing is an innocent bystander didn't go down with him. Wannabe gangsta no more!!!TexJon · 9 months ago
Poor thing..he was kicked out of school, caught at a school campus he didnt belong to, beating another kid, then attacked a Police Officer and got shot..HMM obviously it was all a misunderstanding, he was trying to recruit the other kid for bible camp and he probably thought he saw a bee on the officers nose and was trying to kill it by slaming a door in his face. I regret th cop had to shoot this little thug, but if he would have obeyed the officer in the first place and not ran away he would have probably been at home with his mommy that evening after posting bail. When a cop with that much experience shoots someone its for good reason. So stop blaming the cop, that young man knew what he was doing and now his mother is left with a funeral bill....Heather Smith · 9 months ago
This is a classic case of denial! The little thug was expelled from school, kicked out of an alternative school, and forced to go to a juvenile academy because no reputable school would have him. Then the mother is going to claim he "was a good boy". Perhaps she and Jeffrey Dahmer's mom should have tea. The boy obviously evaded arrest and then ran into a shed - a tool shed - then came out like a bucking bronco. He knew there was an officer standing there - so acting like he didnt mean to hit him with the door is just further denial. Now lets look at where the boy was hiding - a tool shed - knowing the boy had already assaulted someone, evaded arrest and then kicked a door in an officers face - the officer is lucky the boy didnt stab him with a machete. I am so glad this is one less criminal on the streets. When my house is broken into and my jewelry is stolen - I dont care how old the criminal is. I just know he is a criminal. I am glad it was snipped in the bud now, before the boy committed rape or murder.

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San Antonio Express-News

Two sides of teen emerge
Soon after authorities Monday publicly identified Derek Lopez as the student killed last week by a school district police officer, two starkly different portraits of the boy emerged: one repeatedly in trouble, the other loving and family-oriented.

By Eva Ruth Moravec and Michelle Mondo
Published 09:58 p.m., Monday, November 15, 2010

Soon after authorities Monday publicly identified Derek Lopez as the student killed last week by a school district police officer, two starkly different portraits of the boy emerged: one repeatedly in trouble, the other loving and family-oriented.

Lopez, 14, was shot to death Friday afternoon when he burst out of a shed where he was hiding and hit the officer in the face with the door in a yard on the far West Side, San Antonio police said.

Northside Independent School District Police Officer Daniel Alvarado, 40, was on paid administrative leave while the San Antonio Police Department investigates.

The teen's family said they have unanswered questions about why deadly force was needed against an unarmed teen. Lopez's mother, Denys Lopez Moreno, 35, cried as she talked about her son, saying he didn't deserve to die.

Family members said SAPD officers who told them about the death Friday wouldn't give them details and that the medical examiner's office also rebuffed their attempts to get information until Monday.

An aunt, Mishel Lopez-Renteria, 36, said the lack of information and Lopez's death was not only wearing on his mother but the whole family.

Alvarado, a 16-year NISD police veteran, is the first Northside officer to be involved in a shooting in the department's 25-year history, district spokesman Pascual Gonzalez said.

"Not only is this a tragedy for the Northside police officer who fired his gun, but this is a huge tragedy for that family, and we're sympathetic to their feelings and their circumstances," Gonzalez said.

Alvarado was driving on Hunt Lane in a marked patrol car Friday when he saw Lopez and another boy fighting at a bus stop outside the Northside Alternative High School at Santa Fe Ridge, Gonzalez said.

Both Lopez, who weighed 160 pounds and stood 5 feet 9 inches tall, and the other boy attended Bexar County's Juvenile Justice Academy and had been dropped off by an academy bus, officials said.

Witnesses told police that Lopez struck the other boy in the face with the back of his hand. Alvarado tried to detain the teen, who ran across the street and into the Trails of Santa Fe neighborhood, a police report states.

Shortly afterward, a homeowner in the 200 block of Roswell Canyon called 911 to report a possible burglary in progress when she spotted Lopez in her backyard, police said.

Alvarado searched the fenced-in yard but couldn't find the boy until he approached a storage shed on the side of the house.

He announced, "Police, police," several times before peering into the shed, where he saw Lopez crouching on the ground, according to the report. Lopez lunged through the shed's door, intentionally knocking it in Alvarado's face, the report said.

Alvarado, "fearing for his life," fired once and the bullet struck Lopez in the chest, the report said. The officer then conducted cardiopulmonary resuscitation until EMS arrived, police said.

Gonzalez said the SAPD investigation may be reviewed by the district attorney's office. If warranted, disciplinary action against the officer will then be taken, he said.

All 90 NISD officers must be certified Texas peace officers, Gonzalez said, and must respond to calls anywhere in their jurisdiction, which encompasses all the district's 355 square miles. Alvarado, like the department's other patrol officers, wasn't assigned to a particular school.

Alvarado's service record contains no complaints, Gonzalez said, and the Texas Commission on Law Enforcement Officer Standards and Education show his peace officer's license has never been suspended or revoked.

Before he joined the Northside force in 1994, Alvarado spent 10 months working for the Leon Valley Police Department.

It was not clear if Alvarado was already familiar with Lopez, whose history of trouble at school began at age 9, according to officials.

Lopez was expelled from elementary school in April 2006, Gonzalez said, and spent the next few years in and out of alternative schools, traditional campuses and the county's juvenile academy. He had been disciplined for persistent misbehavior including possession and distribution of drugs, assault, theft and using profanity, Gonzalez said.

In September, he was expelled from Pease Middle School when he was arrested on a felony charge of graffiti on school property, according to David Reilly, Bexar County's chief probation officer. He was again sent to the juvenile justice center, officials said.

Lopez's aunt disputed the charge of distributing drugs, saying he was caught with a pill. She didn't know what kind. She said the family wanted to fight the charge but didn't have the money.

Family members said Lopez could talk back and did have trouble with a few other teens, but he wasn't a drug dealer, gang member or thug.

One of four siblings, he played baseball and basketball, took his younger cousins to the park to play on the swings and loved to help his grandmother cook, they said.

After reading Internet comments connected to previous stories and watching the news, the family said they do not know the boy being described.

"They're talking about my sister's son, my nephew, like he's a monster," Lopez-Renteria said.

The family said Lopez's older brother and a cousin had to be pulled out of school Monday because of the constant questions from their peers about the shooting.

"It's been very hard for them," said Patricia Jimenez, 45, another aunt.

Staff Writer Jennifer Lloyd contributed to this report.


© 2011 Hearst Communications Inc

Ursus:
Here's a brief update from the same news source as the OP...

Well, I dunno... One backhand to the face, however inexcusable (or not) it may have been, somehow gets translated into "a fight":

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News 4 WOAI
Officer says he feared for his life when he shot teen

Published: 11/16/2010 10:06 am
Updated: 11/16/2010 12:30 pm

SAN ANTONIO -- A Northside Independent School District police officer claims he feared for his life when he shot and killed a 14-year-old student last Friday.

NISD officials confirm that Derek Lopez was a student at the Bexar County Juvenile Justice Academy, where students go when they have been expelled from alternative school. Witnesses said NISD officer Daniel Alvarado tried to stop a fight between Lopez and another student. Officer Alvarado said he shot Lopez because he felt his life was in danger.

Alvarado remains on paid administrative leave while the San Antonio Police Department continues its investigation.


© 2010 Newport Television LLC

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"Witnesses said NISD officer Daniel Alvarado tried to stop a fight between Derek Lopez and another student last Friday."

Comments left for the above article, "Officer says he feared for his life when he shot teen" (11/16/2010, News 4 WOAI), #s 1-20:

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munchie - 11/16/2010 10:41 AM
Yes, watched the news last night and how the mama said he was such a "good boy". Yet reading between the lines this boy had been expelled from an alternative school and gets caught fighting. Glad Officer Alvarado is ok.batman18 - 11/16/2010 11:38 AM
It is very sad this boy had to die, but if the officer was in danger and did his job it's gonna happen. I don't like to judge but the picture in the paper shows a pretty large boy for only being 14. Sounds like the ever present hispanic "machismo", and yes this does exist and yes I am hispanic too.suncliffsa - 11/16/2010 11:54 AM
This is a sad story. However, in the news, the teenager's mother and grandmother say this kid was a good kid. It's parents like these who have their heads stuck in the sand and just don't have a clue. Wasn't he in an alternative school for something he did? So young and starting so bad.baaros - 11/16/2010 11:54 AM
Ugh, so tired of these parents coming out and saying how good their child was etc etc etc. Funny how every time a crime happens involving a young teen or young adult the parents come on saying how good they are. Pretty sure if they were that good they wouldn't have been shot by an officer.trutex - 11/16/2010 12:34 PM
And of course no dad anywhere anywhere in the picture. Boys need dads. The prisons are chocked full of males from single parent homes. But don't say anything or the Misandrists will go bat$hit.felontracker - 11/16/2010 12:52 PM
Read THIS and try to dispute it... a future felon starting out at the age of 9. http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_ ... 98319.html[/list]
nursshar1 - 11/16/2010 12:59 PM
any mother or grandmother is going to say that "he was a good boy". Why? Because to them, that is the only way they can ever see them. can you imagine looking at your child and saying that they are a bad person? I am not saying it is right, I am just trying to get people to pull back and look at it from another's perspective.Jimkata - 11/16/2010 1:16 PM
Run at a cop, try to hit him with a door to knock him down, and then your family complains when he gets shot saying he was "a good boy"... His police record says otherwise... It's sad it came to this, but the kid got what he had coming... Obviously he had not learned a thing from his past troubles.TheAngryOne - 11/16/2010 1:19 PM
another mother granma monster creation destroyed by society, the boy was not born this way, how sad he had to die this way.jamdscott - 11/16/2010 1:31 PM
First my disclaimer: I wasn't there and I'm not the responding officer. Now, since when does a door swinging open hitting you upside the head warrant deadly force? Did the boy have a knife, a gun, or an object that could be used for blunt force trauma that could cause serious injury or death? Winging door or jumping at you?? C'mon man!!!! How about defensive tactics, pepper spray, whop with the ASP baton?? This is going to be a hard one for the officer to prove. Again, I wasn't there ot the officer--just asking the hard questions that will eventually come up before, during, and/or after the lawsuit.wilkim45yes - 11/16/2010 1:33 PM
TO THE LOPEZ FAMILY: if you have any other kids, THE BALL IS NOW IN YOUR COURT. You CONTINUE to raise them in the same manner you raised Derek, then you SHOULD EXPECT THEM TO MEET THE SAME FATE!sajoejoe - 11/16/2010 1:52 PM
Very Sad, The officer got hit in that face with the door stunned unaware of what was coming next and shot to protect himself. We know the boy had problems. The family knows what they did wrong in raising this boy. No dad, they can only blame themselves now. It;s called LOVE. A word that means so much, when put the phrase "I LOVE YOU". Say ItLisaPowers - 11/16/2010 4:10 PM
Ok - not saying this kid was Mr. Innocent, but since when to middle school cops carry guns? Maybe that's a bad idea to begin with. Surely Pepper Spray or a Tazer (yeah, I know, they hate those too, but they're better than bullets) would have been an better arming option?sa mike - 11/16/2010 4:30 PM
I've noticed several posts mentioning the lack of a father coming forward. That says a lot about this young lads home situation. Yes he probably was a "good boy" from what his mom saw, but a boy growing up NEEDS a male influence and apparently that was lacking in his home. That said, a 14 year old with no obvious weapon should not be that great a threat to a 17 year police veteran. Pepper-spray, taser,police baton would have probably helped the officer subdue the boy. Alas, this is Texas where a handgun unfortunately seems to be the answer to a lot of social problems. Just my 2 cents worth...euroboy - 11/16/2010 4:39 PM
This police officer "feared for his life"? What a big p****y!!!! He has no business being a police officer if he's afraid of being shot dead!!! That is part of the job...possibly being shot or killed!!! This bozo (and he's probably fat from donuts) couldn't handle a 14 year old!!?? I have a 14 year old and if anyone (even a cop) killed him, so goes the saying, "an eye for eye".DunoNuthin - 11/16/2010 4:48 PM
Karma's a B, ylo.... Just because something terrible happened to your family, now you're wishing the same upon others? It's a vicious cycle. All I have to say about this, it if you fail to comply with the orders of a peace officer, and you attack them, don't expect to live to tell about it.cher01 - 11/16/2010 5:09 PM
Whoa, this is getting really heated. The lack of a father in the home is not necessarly the reason this boy was the was he was. I was raised without a father, my kids are being raised without a father, and nothing like this has ever happened to my family. Yes, this boy had a lot of problems, and every situation is different, but come on people, bottom line is JOHNNY LAW KILLED A KID! But consider the source, he worked in Leon Valley for years. They are cold and heartless, just like Balcones Heights, Selma and all these other small towners. I say if he is allowed to stay with NISD, then he needs to be on desk duty and not allowed to carry a gun.cher01 - 11/16/2010 5:16 PM
OOPS typo. *not necessarily the reason why this boy was the WAY he wascher01 - 11/16/2010 6:23 PM
According to all the news reports I have been hearing about, that neighborhood keeps re-appearing. NISD busses being shot at with pellet/BB guns, not one but twice, who knows, now maybe it's a third time, and now this. Maybe it's the NISD police doing all the shooting Wow, sure am glad I don't live over there.Nero14 - 11/16/2010 6:28 PM
Officer Alvarado is a great man. Although I never told him, he was a great role model thrught middle school , and even through high school. He was the main reason I chose to not do drugs and get into trouble, as he tought a small anti drug class we were require to take. Your a great officer, and I hope this does not effect your career too much. As someone who's life was directly changed from your mentoring, I will always hold you in high regard. Keep your head held high!

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Comments left for the above article, "Officer says he feared for his life when he shot teen" (11/16/2010, News 4 WOAI), #s 21-40:


cons3rvative1 - 11/16/2010 6:31 PM
Nero14, your life wasn't the only life that was directly changed by this officer..cons3rvative1 - 11/16/2010 6:32 PM
Nero14, your life wasn't the only life that was directly changed by this officer..cons3rvative1 - 11/16/2010 6:34 PM
i think it is irrelevant whether this kid was a bad kid or not. the facts are that he was a child who was running and hiding.. that does not look like a dangerous situation that would call for any police officer to draw their gun and shoot to kill.Geriniol - 11/16/2010 7:02 PM
As much as I hate to say it, this sounds like just another meth tale. It might not be, who knows, but when you get a bunch of stuff that doesn't make sense, it's almost always meth. The crack people just sort of lose their cool, but the meth folk, they freak out in bad ways, man.simmons - 11/16/2010 7:16 PM
It's so true how things get changed on the news. They seem to show one side of the story and not the full story. They can ruin a persons life when they print stories about teens. Teen news should be off limits to the news. Especially when they print the names or the school they belong to. Everyone at that school then knows what happens and gissip starts spreading like wildfire. Stories change along the way and the truth is lost. Please have the news stop showing things about under age people. It just hurts others. I know you might not understand what I'm talking about, but from my experience, any news story about under age people causes an anger and hate in so many people, when they don't even know the facts.TheAngryOne - 11/16/2010 8:43 PM
thou shall not kill!!!!!raisenofool - 11/16/2010 9:38 PM
Whyraisenofool - 11/16/2010 9:42 PM
This individual was kicked out of a regular public school (not easy to do), kicked out of alternative school (also not easy to do), then placed in juvie which he was skipping out of when he was fighting with another kid. After that he is running from and fighting with an NISD officer. At what point should this individual be accountable for his own actions?cons3rvative1 - 11/16/2010 9:52 PM
@raisenofool, this young junior high kids behavior history has no bearing on whether an officer has justifiable cause to shoot and kill someone, an unarmed junior high kid at that. the only person who needs to be held accountable for their actions in this murder is the police officer.eltoro67 - 11/16/2010 10:22 PM
Whether this child was a poor student or not is irrelevant here. This story doesn't mention that this kid was armed with any kind of weapon. How can a well trained police officer feel his life is in danger from a 14 year old unarmed kid?TheAngryOne - 11/16/2010 10:30 PM
amen, tive1,67.sagicap - 11/16/2010 10:33 PM
Most parents don't want to admit that their child is a delinquent. What did we expect mom to say? Also, kids will show parents whatever side they want parents to see to keep things going in their favor, so they can get away with whatever is going on when mom is not at home. Bottom line, this kid had been expelled from school and alternative school. According to his district, he'd used up all his chances with them. Some people may not want the history to be waved around in this situation, but had he hurt the officer, it would've been brought up at his trial. 2 things I can tell you: this cop and the kid probably knew each other well because of that history and mommy's good little boy isn't what the rest of the world gets. He might have helped grandmother around the house, but when he walks away from the "security" of his home, he's got to pretend to be a man and walk the walk. Is it really that far of a stretch to say that he might have been armed, he was just in a violent situation right before the cop shot him. And how many stories do we have about sweet little middle schoolers that are armed, shoot at others or cause other problems? Those officers need to protect themselves. Middle school grade level/age doesn't disqualify them from being dangerous kids any more than having a 2 parent home churns out perfect little angel babies.cons3rvative1 - 11/16/2010 10:42 PM
sagicap, do you realize how many kids fit into that little description you gave? shall we let all s.a. police have open season on all these 'delinquents'? no. this kids behavior should not be reason to use deadly force on any unarmed person. drawing a gun is one thing quite another to shoot and kill someone who isn't carrying any type of weapon. but i also agree with you that the cop and the kid probably knew each other. thinking the cop was trying to abuse his authority because this kid probably didn't respect him or something.eltoro67 - 11/16/2010 10:58 PM
If this kid was armed the police officer would have definitely mentioned it. I'm sure it would help defend him in court and it is possible that they knew each other but the fact of the matter is, police officers get special training to handle situations like this. They don't just hire any idiot off the streets and give them a gun. Did he draw his gun because this 14 year old threatened his life? Did he panic and just shot the boy? If this kid knew the cop and didn't have respect for him is it possible the cop allowed his personal feelings get in the way? We can all speculate but if the boy was not armed it is very hard to believe the cop fired because he feared for his life from a 14 year old.felontracker - 11/16/2010 11:13 PM
Keep in mind that this little 14 year old wasn't so little. Don't get fooled by the photo the family chose to give the media. Nice try though. This kid was 5'9" and 190 pounds.cons3rvative1 - 11/16/2010 11:18 PM
@felontracker, size matters not. as long as the person was not armed there was not a justifiable reason to shoot to kill any unarmed person.felontracker - 11/16/2010 11:18 PM
Apparently you (suni/mdvball) didn't read the mysanantonio.com story I linked in my earlier post. Just copy and paste the link to your address line it will take you straight there. This is coming from an interview with Northside I.S.D. Public Information Officer Pasqual Gonzales. This kid was kicked out of elementary school at the age of nine. Come on people...who gets kicked out of elementary school. Oh yea! a future felon. He has multiple arrests for assault and fighting. He has felony charges and/or convictions for graffiti and drug possession while attending alternative "Middle School" which was what had him sent to J.J.A. "Juvenile Justice" Academy...a state school for felons. He was recently kicked out of J.J.A. Come on folks! That is strait from the School District's go to guy. Next thing you're going to post is that Pasqual Gonzalez is a lier and also not telling the truth. This police officer did our city justice and saved us law abiding tax paying citizens a ton of money that would have been used to house, feed and try to rehabilatate this felon. Apparently you also did not understand the metaphore...pigs don't know pigs stink...or here's an easier one for you...birds of a feather, flock together... Still don't get it? I know, I know...they were only little felonies.cons3rvative1 - 11/16/2010 11:23 PM
@felontracker, the police officer was chasing the kid because he had gotten into a fight..since when do kids fighting turn into cops drawing their guns on them.? how does that lead him to kill an unarmed person. in order for the cop to say it was self defense this kid had to have some type of weapon that the police officer felt threatened. but no, the gun was already drawn and ready to shoot at an unarmed person. this killing is not justifiable.eltoro67 - 11/17/2010 12:00 AM
felontracker, I can't believe what you are saying about this kid. Whether he was taller than you or not he was still 14 years old. He may have been going down the wrong path but that still doesn't justify shooting him if he was unarmed. Whether you like it or not we have laws that protect them and if you choose to ignore those laws then you are no better than the criminals sitting in jail. You are definitely right about one thing, birds of a feather flock together. I'm wondering if you are related to this cop. I sincerely hope your job doesn't require you to carry a gun.felontracker - 11/17/2010 8:02 AM
Please people, get your heads out of the sand. In my shed, I have a machete, pruning sheers, headge scissors, box cutters and an old lawn mower blade, a bag full of baseball bats, shovels, pitch fork and many other lawn tools. Any of those things could be used as a lethal weapon. This homeowner may very well have simular items in his shed. We already know that this kid kicked the door open striking the officer in the face. At that point, this officer may be disoriented and you not sure if this kid may have picked up any of this things while hiding in the shed. This kid was a little p.o.s. already well familiar with the legal system with two (2) felony charges already. Again read the mysanantonio.com article. They even comments from his probation officer about what a "GOOD BOY" he was. I could only hope to get a jury summons and be there for this officer. I totally back the BLUE. Again, if the homeowner would have shot this kid for burglary which is what he did the minute he entered the shed...you would have been cheering a win for the good guys. It is what it it.

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