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NISD officer shoots and kills teen after chase
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NISD officer shoots and kills teen after chase
Published: 11/12/2010 5:24 pm
Updated: 11/13/2010 5:53 pm
(News 4 WOAI)
SAN ANTONIO -- A teenager was shot and killed by a Northside Independent School District police officer on the Far West Side Friday afternoon.
The shooting happened around 4:30 p.m. in the 200 block of Roswell Canyon, off of Hunt Lane and Potranco Road. A NISD spokesperson said the officer told investigators he was patrolling the neighborhood and witnessed a fight between the teenager and a NISD student. The teenager took off on foot, and the officer began chasing him through the neighborhood.
During the chase, a homeowner came out of his house, waived down the officer, and told him he believed the teenager was hiding inside his shed in his backyard. As the officer approached the shed, he and the teenager got into a struggle, and the teenager was shot.
Police are still investigating, but officials said it appears the teenager "came at" the officer. It's not yet clear if the teenager had any sort of weapon.
NISD officials did not release the teen's name but said he was an 8th grade student at the Bexar County Juvenile Justice School. The boy had attended Pease Middle School, just down the street from where the shooting happened, but had recently been expelled.
The officer, who NISD officials described as a "veteran officer," suffered a cut on his lip and a knee injury. He has been placed on administrative leave pending the results of the investigation.
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Comments left for the above article, "NISD officer shoots and kills teen after chase" (11/12/2010, NEWS 4 WOAI), #s 1-20:
nytotx - 11/12/2010 5:54 PM
Why was an NISD officer dispatched? This is not school property.Feesta - 11/12/2010 6:13 PM
Gotta love the, "culture", here.aseadooguy - 11/12/2010 7:06 PM
NISD Poice are not just school police. They are employed by the District and have regular police powers and can ticket you or arrest you just like any other SAPD Officer.Citizen Todd - 11/12/2010 7:13 PM
All property belongs to schools, that's why you pay taxes even if you don't have no kids. It's the law.Sammy - 11/12/2010 9:20 PM
aseadooguy, you are correct. School distrct police are "Texas Peace Officers" just like TX Rangers, DPS Troopers, Sheriffs/constables, and municipal police...they have full powers and arrest authority. Good work, officer. My taxes are finally paying off! One less hoodlum to support in jail!wilkim45yes - 11/12/2010 10:06 PM
1) TEEN FLEES FROM THE POLICE OFFICER, 2) TEEN BREAKS INTO SOMEONE'S SHED, 3) TEEN SCUFFLES WITH POLICE OFFICER, 4) TEEN EXPELLED FROM SCHOOL...Well there you have it, I NOW KNOW HOW HIS PARENTS RAISED THIS TEEN.Flawed - 11/12/2010 11:10 PM
I am truly appalled by the comments on here from supposed adults. How dare you judge this child to the point that you feel he deserved to die. Which one of you was a perfect child or for that matter a perfect adult. And for those of you that have kids thank God for their safety. To those of you who commented and do not have kids, thank the good Lord for that small miracle. To the family of the child May God guide you through this rough journey you are now facing. I pray that ministering, warring, and protective angel encamp around you in this your time of need. For the officer involver may peace come swiftly to your heart and mind. And to all the negative people who posted such hateful non sense, May God hold you to the same standard of judgment that you have so publically held this child and his family to. And please everyone try to remember, no matter how awful you felt this child was, based on the limited exposure you had to him, he was a person who has left behind people who love him. Please think of that and show some respect to the ones left behind when you post your comments.Math Teacher - 11/12/2010 11:23 PM
So big veteran trained police officer couldn't get the best of an 8th grader without killing him? Are you kidding me? Maybe this kid had been fighting, but his real crime was "POPO".DirtyCowboy79 - 11/12/2010 11:24 PM
Flawed, you so are flawed. I am all for the officer. #1 it sounds like he was defending himself. #2 the kids now a days tend to be out of control. I hope this sends a message to them. #3 God bless Texas. May the wrong be punished as this kid was. Apparently his parents seemed inept to properly discipline this child. I was raised in during the 80's & 90's and the one thing I feared the most then and I respect the most now were my parents and all 4 of us kids turned out to be law abiding and have the very best lives with everything going for us. These days parents think "time out" will fix everything. Think again.sa mike - 11/12/2010 11:48 PM
Flawed- I appreciate that you sat down and thought for amoment or two before posting. A vast majority of folks posting not only on this topic, but most others only glance at the headline and without putting their mind in gear vent their spleen.dltyler - 11/13/2010 6:35 AM
If the young man had been shot and killed by the homeowner whose shed he was hiding in because he assualts the homeowner-- would the outcome been different looking to some people???? It is again a situtation that will be dealt with by people who have compiled all of the facts and came to a conclusion from the evidence left behind.AlamoGal - 11/13/2010 6:36 AM
I'm sure, looking back, the officer would liked for this to turn out differently. Why didn't the kid just stop and turn himself in? Why run? So the police officer is chasing a juvenile who was just expelled and in a school for bad kids and could possibly come out of the shed with a pair of garden shears or who knows what to assualt him with? Unless you were there in the heat of the moment with this officer, no one has any right to judge. I'm sure the officer is sorry now the way it ended, but it's the kid's fault for the entire event in the first place.Arturo - 11/13/2010 6:42 AM
Guess the kid had a real learning disability, he couldn't learn in school or out of school, hopefully he was one of the local graffiti artists.euroboy - 11/13/2010 7:23 AM
These comments are not surprising coming from FAT, DUMB and STUPID San Antonians!!! It's shocking that a police officer cannot defend himself from an 8th grader without having to shoot and kill him. If this were my child that he killed...there would be quite a reaction from me towards this POS officer!!son2gezus - 11/13/2010 7:53 AM
This was a horrible incident for everyone involved. I only have one question? This CHILD was already in trouble with the juvinnile dept. right? Why didn't his parents know where he was and what he was doing, if I had a troubled teen, I would be all over him all the time, I would have him involved in after school programs, volunteer work, something to keep him out of trouble. And if he didn't want to do all that, then I would protect him from himself and put him in military school, I would have gotten him off the streets! As parents we cannot be enablers, we have to protect them from them selves even if that means sending them away!son2gezus - 11/13/2010 8:19 AM
I pray for everyone involved, no one really knows what happened, obviously the child was very troubled and like so many troubled children ..was a product of his environment. It's the parents that need to take control and do something about this kind of stuff...he was only child. Not that he wasn't being delinquent... but integrity and morals and character start in the home!Let's be honest some parents just don't care or there living the same kind of life style them selves. If I had a son that was alreadyin troulble with the law, he would not have been free to do whatever he wanted including going back to his old hood. I would occupy his time with good influences and if he didn't listen ...them military school it is!kingphil - 11/13/2010 8:36 AM
I agree with you EUROBOY none of these comments make any sense.Until the investigation is over we do not have a clue as to what happened. It looks like the people making the comments have never done anything wrong in their entire life especially when they were juveniles.But done it mean this 14 year old deserved to die? The officer is only required by law to use deadly force to protect himself or someelse from SERIOUS BODILY INJURY or DEATH. Was this officer in fear of his life? Did the 14 year old have a deadly weapaon in his possession such as a gun or knife? These are the questions that will be answered during the investigation.cher01 - 11/13/2010 9:10 AM
This is so very very heartbreaking. I have a son the same age, and no matter what this boy did, he did not deserve to die at the hands of a "shoot now, ask questions later" cop. I am sorry mr officer, but you screwed up on this deal. My thoughts and prayers go out to the family of this boy, during this very sad and tragic time in their lives.rhancox - 11/13/2010 9:11 AM
This really is a tragedy. But consider this: do we need uniformed, and armed, police officers worrying about kids getting into fights? All the school districts pay all these officers, and for what? Catch a truant. Stop a fight. In the grand scheme of things, is it worth the expense? Now we have this. According to the story, the district officer saw the fight and went to break it up and one of the kids runs. Now we've got a chase that ends up with the kid dead. They were just fighting. Just showing up broke it up. Is it that important that our tax dollars be spent on a police force to break up school fights? I'm not trying to deflect blame for all this, but where I grew up, we didn't have a district police force. We got into fights and we all survived. We didn't need a nanny-state district to keep us on the straight and narrow. If someone did cross over to the dark side, the local police were the ones responsible for keeping us safe from him. As I read this story and think about how it got started, I really question the motives behind a district police force. One of those motives, I suspect, has to do with how much money the district gets from the state, and how. So often our kids tell us how a teacher tells them how important it is for them to be in school because that's how the school gets it's money. Attendance. So, does the school district justify the expense of a police force because it helps keep a kid going to a school, whether it's normal or alternative, so the school/district can keep making their money? What kind of return on investment does that bring? You know, WalMart takes certain steps to prevent theft, but they realize it can't all be stopped and so they don't go overboard spending a lot of money on it. It doesn't pay off. This whole incident has me wondering. I just don't see the importance of chasing down a kid who was in a fight. Not that every situation turns out like this, but none of them would if we shifted our focus to more important matters.speakonit - 11/13/2010 9:45 AM
rhancox Since you did not grow up in S.A. let me fill you in. The kids here dont fight,they try to kill. If you beat his ass, him and his homeboys are gonna shoot up your house or whatever they can. And who can we thank? The parents, or lack of parenting. Kids dont become violent overnight, its a learned process. Parents bullying there kids,older children bullying the younger children. ITS LEARNED BEHAVIOR.STOP THE MADNESS. SAVE OUR CHILDREN. THEY ARE OUR FUTURE!!!!!!!
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--- Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan" ---This incident is 9 months old, have the police presented the weapon the kid came after him with, or is it a matter of national security?
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Ya know... I think that bit about the kid having a weapon may be fabrication for the purpose of covering someone's ass, but I haven't read far enough into this saga to say for sure.
It appears to have started as an impromptu adolescent skirmish, which would have probably played out with more pomp than circumstance, had there been no intervention on the part of others.
The cop's behavior and course of action was, however, beyond the pale. That much is certain. Imo.
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