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Courthouse News/ Boy Scout Boot Camp Abuses!
ANOM:
but ask your self isn't there more than 2 students enrolled in that program??
i mean after more than 4 years why only this two??
I was a parent that work closely with this and many other programs and i personally think it's a great program that has helped many students including my own daughter and
this article to me seems a bit stretched out leaving out many important facts and honestly a lie can get halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to even be heard.]
Oscar:
I could certainly need more background information so the Fornits Wiki records on both program - 180 Recon and About face cadet corps.
How many young people can attend the program at a certain time?
When were they founded?
What do the AFCC aftercare program consist of?
Where do the boot camp itself take place?
Are the Facebook groups for the young people who have been forced into them?
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "ANOM" ---So I found this article while searching for Boot Camp Programs and it's interesting how after two years it's finally up but i thought i should point out certain information because it seems not only unfair for the director to be the only to take the hit for this incident but also because I think it's only right for the public to know. It was right about 8 different instructors working with him at the time like Gunny Avila and and Sergeant Gamma who were actually the instructors who picked up those two students for that particular camp and right after 180 Degree Recon was facing charges (well a month or two) Gunny Avila decided to leave as well as Sergeant Gamma and a few other Sergeants for unknown reasons now im not here to point fingers but honestly why would you leave after claiming you were one of the founding fathers of this program and 5 months later decide to make your own program??? which by the way is named "About Face Cadet Corps" or AFCC look it up if you don't believe me ww.afcc1.com oh and compare both program you'll find extreme similarities between the two programs but im just trying to make it clear for the public to have it's own
but ask your self isn't there more than 2 students enrolled in that program??
i mean after more than 4 years why only this two??
and no I don't give anyone any permission what so ever to re-post, edit, or copy my post
I was a parent that work closely with this and many other programs and i personally think it's a great program that has helped many students including my own daughter and
this article to me seems a bit stretched out leaving out many important facts and honestly a lie can get halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to even be heard.]
--- End quote ---
Whether or not it is "unfair for the director to be the only to take the hit for this incident," what is it about this program's philosophy or modus operandi that allowed these abuses to occur? Who, indeed, should ultimately take responsibility for " 'corporal punishment and other physical abuse, including blows to the head ... emotional and psychological abuse and humiliation,' hooding, and denial of sleep, food, water and medical care - even after one child began urinating blood?"
How, do tell, has experiencing or witnessing this kind of behavior "helped" your daughter?
talksla:
Ive followed this case really closely, even got the sheriffs report.
One, 180 recon continues to get child abuse reports. and they are all similair to the first two cases,
the original police report doesn not claim gunny avila picked the kids up, they got picked up by a red truck which at the time one of the other
head instuctors owned.
as for afcc, they've been running the program for 2 years now and yet havnt gotten any child abuse report.
I belive that says a lot about a program.
Just my opinion..
Che Gookin:
It more than likely means the program has gotten more clever at hiding abuse over the last 2 years.
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