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Comments left for the above article, "
At State-Run Homes, Abuse and Impunity" (by Danny Hakim; March 12, 2011;
The New York Times), #s 201-222:
201. doneill03 · Kirkwood NY · March 13th, 2011 7:45 pmI work in a community residence and well I feel that the article is well researched and written it fails to address the thousand of employees that do this job daily with a big heart and compassion for the individuals that we serve. At the end of the article it talks about management, but fails to research beyond the fire drills. This agency like all others in NY is top heavy to many chiefs and not enough Indians. We work most shifts with min. staff and must provide a level of care that protects are consumers and allows them to be individuals with individual needs and the dignity they deserve. I have worked for 25 years in many different settings also as a local CSEA president and I can say that when management does its job correctly these abuses would never go this far. In my facility when I was president management would bring abuse charges, and usually made them stick because they did there work correctly. I will not say the same today has there are so many employees on administrative leave while being investigated for some real problems while others are out because a consumer said they said they were fat, and the staff was on pass day when it occured. Well the writer did a great job I would say he could find just has much if not more abuse in management, and they make 3 to 4 times what an aide and in most cases are just as uneducated because they got there threw "the good old boys" way.
202. Tara · Boston · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmI'm sick, sick to my stomach reading this - especially after reading the first, and most heavily (for good reason) recommended comment. I'm so truly sorry for your experience and I commend you for posting your story to this thread. Your voice will help others like you survive.
As for the article itself, I cannot for the life of me understand how such abuse takes place so widely across the U.S. without proper attention and accountability; public or private. Unreal. Furthermore, while I understand the importance of unions, they appear to be only blindly defending those criminals for the sake of the union in this case. This is not okay. I'm thankful for the NYTimes and for sound journalism for exposing such wicked and predatory acts against those unable to defend themselves, and I'm so incredibly sorry for all the suffering these poor people had (and sadly continue) to endure for the sake of "mental health." Seems to me the people applying for the "caregiver" roles in these houses are in need of mental attention more so than the patients themselves. Yes, community, awareness and EXPOSURE must increase -people need to know about this!
203. Jen · Seattle, WA · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmInstead of charging a man raping developmentally delayed women, they *transferred* him? This is starting to sound like the Catholic Church sex abuse scandals.
204. Lady · Garnerville, New York · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmThis article brings to light that budget cuts to the developementally disabled will do nothing more than create "little willowbrooks". If you want to know how the government respects the population of those with disabilities you look to the budget and see what they insure for this fragile group of people.
The State should not be a provider of services...it could not do so in large institutions and now with the proposed budget cuts from this Governor it is destroying the delivery of services and care for community residences for people with disabilities. Aside from "State" run group homes there are many not for profit agencies providing services for people with disabilities that the State is unable to provide and now these budget cuts will result in understaffing, lack of appropropriate services and again this population will suffer indignities.
As a parent of a child with profound disabilities, it is frightening to think we are going back in time with the proposed Medicaid budget cuts. People with disabilities have a right to live in the community with appropriate care and enjoy the benefits of being a resident in a community.
Individuals through no fault of their own live a life dependent on our government for humane treatment. As a parent, yes I advocate every day for my daugther and for others similarly situated and I believe there should be an exception to the Medicaid cuts to insure the safety and well-being of this vulnerable population.
No one benefitted in a large instituion. Today, people with disabiities are members of loving families and communities. In large instituions families were torn apart, lived apart and never enjoyed the benefits of this great nation.
This Governor has aspirations beyond New York State, but the New York State Medicaid budget should not be balanced on the backs of the disabled.
This article has brought attention to the "State" run group homes and as I previously stated the "State" should not be involved in the delivery of care for the developmentally developed individuals. The private not for profit agencies providing care in the group homes are agencies that provide substantial oversight and care but they only can provide these services with the Medicaid funding. Taking away the funding is taking away very needed services and that is not acceptable.
205. Carole L. Sherman · Little Rock, AR · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmThank you for shinning a light on public policies for the care and treatment of persons with severe and profound developmental disabilities. My interest is that of mother and co-guardian of a son, aged 42, whose severe brain injuries occurred at birth and who functions on the level of a toddler. John has the medical diagnosis of profound mental retardation and autism. He is mobile, non-verbal and has slight or little awareness of danger. All of his life, he will rely on others to assure his health and safety.
Our son is a long time resident of a state – operated, Medicaid - certified intermediate care facility for persons with mental retardation ("ICF/MR"), which annually undergoes licensure reviews and must meet strict federal guidelines in order to receive funding. The ICF/MR program (institutional program) is the best option for John, who cannot report his hurts and needs and who can be frightening if his behavior spirals into a meltdown. We rely on the many watching "eyes" of the caregivers, professional support staff and volunteers to assure his health and safety. We rely also on the knowledge that on a large campus, our son has freedom to walk the center's many paths: he is in the least restrictive setting.
ICF/MR programs are in the cross-hairs of advocates who embrace a "community-only" ideology. These groups, many of which are funded by the federal government, say our son's rights are violated because he lives in a "segregated" setting; they say (without foundation) that care would be "cheaper" in community programs. Their aggressive actions include bringing federal lawsuits against states for operating ICF/MR programs; lobbying and pressuring policy makers to downsize, consolidate and then eliminate institutional programs.
The federal government should not use public resources to destroy the choice of institutional programs for the nation's population with profound and severe disabilities - the results have been and are disastrous, as your article shows. President Obama should direct all programs funded under the Developmental Disabilities Assistance & Bill of Rights Act of 2000 and the Civil Rights Division/U.S. Dept. of Justice to cease all activities aimed at the elimination of institutional care. The Congress should not approve financial incentives under the Affordable Health Care Act or any other grant program to entice states to remove vulnerable persons from institutional programs.
Please continue to write about these complex public policies.
Carole L. Sherman
Little Rock, AR
206. J.S. · massachusetts · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmAs a manager for ten years in one of these homes, I can assure you this is all news to me. Massachusetts is different, I guess. Ours is a warm, caring, loving home. That you can abuse someone and not be let go immediately is outrages and criminal as far as I'm concerned. Rape is rape. Did any of the incompetent police get fired in that case. In Massachusetts, in my company anyway, you would be out the door before you could make up an excuse. There is NO excuse for the staff in this article.
That said, the trouble is this; the article understated and underplayed the physical challenges staff go through in this field. Not SOME of the people are violent--- just about ALL are, and some extremely violent. For instance: You are sitting watching television and a client suddenly gets up and tosses the television against the wall.-- You ask "how's it going" to another client and you get punched in the face. -- You take a 40 year old client to the store, he doesn't want to leave, he strips off his clothes and starts screaming.-- A client is bored so he takes all the garbage in the house empties it in the middle of the living room and then starts to smash all the furniture.—A client wants to go out, you don't move fast enough, he puts both his hands through the window in the living room with glass shattering all over the floor. This is everyday life in one of these homes.
These people are happy, sweet, wonderful people for the most part. But stuff happens every day that most people would be shocked at. Their parameters of behaviors are WAY different then you can even imagine. You need to care for developmentally developed people with your heart in order to be good at this job. But the pay is ten dollars an hour. I don't know where you got that $29,000 to $64,000 figure.
By the way, here's a fact for you while you are throwing them around, NINETY percent of our population have been sexually abused by other clients at some time in their lives. This is a different world.
Also, the guy who complained about the fire drills was a person that doesn't understand his job. Fire drills are always a problem. Some people would have to be picked up and brought out in case of fire. That's a given. A down syndrome person can usually be manipulated to go out in a drill-- cookies, soda, something. It is a bit of a fraud some times but you know what his complaint means---- it means another employee (a one on one) has to be hired to make sure that one client gets out the door a few times a year. It will cost maybe $23,000 dollars plus benefits when, if a fire really happened, you be an awake staff and carry him out. If you want to spend money for a one on one for a million more employees then go ahead.
The reason families aren't often around? They are afraid. They've been punched, kicked and abused by their developmentally disabled relative since they were children. They have incredible guilt as well. It's too painful. For those who have go back to big institutions,--- you know not what you say.
207. Concerned citizen · Albany, NY · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmThank you for this article! Keep up the reporting. Just a few comments on the accuracy of some of the comments. These are STATE OPERATED not privately operated. These are people in the DD system, NOT the OMH system so none of them are homeless. The staff do not make minimum wage. They start at $29,000 per year and get regular step increases and Cost of Living increases. The quickly get to a very good wage. The article says clearly that they make from $29.000 to $63,000 without overtime, their benefits packages are worth 49% of the or salaries. These are NOT minimum wage jobs.
The problems are many, obviously. Poorly trained managers in how to develop an actionable record against a bad actor, the union protectionists (despicable), the unbelievable ability of OPWDD to turn a blind eye to their own programs' systemic problems, the fact that the state both operates AND provides oversight to itself. These programs should all be operated by reputable NON-PROFITS with the state focused on stern oversight. And let's not forget about a legislature that is so beholding to the unions for re-election that they don't want to pull back the curtain except to peek. Hopefully, there will be robust hearings with no caution about where the chips fall and Governor Cuomo and A.G. Schneiderman will work together to end the stranglehold that the unions have and the mismanagement at all levels of state government.
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208. Buffalo Bill · Western NY · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmI worked for OMRDD for 30+ years and I find this article to be totaslly believable. One of the major issues is that supervisors spend a substantial amount of their time sitting in meetings and talking about "important issues" like smoking policies, mission statements, "continuous improvement" and "best practices" while the direct care workers are left to fend for, and police, themselves. Those who turn in their co-workers are then abused themselves, and the quickly come to understand that the offender is likely to be back working alongside them before they know it. Management blames the Union for their inability to fire someone but the simple fact of the matter is that no one wants to take the time or energy to actually supervise their staff because they are "too busy" with fluff and nonsense. Kudos to the Times for doing their homework since I know for a fact that this agency prides itself on being inaccessible to any sort of independent media and, if they do interact, they spend hours discussing what they will and won't say. Frankly, to paraphrase Senator Kennedy's words from 1965, the management structure of OMRDD is a "snake pit". It badly needs to have the light shined upon it.
209. cherieok · Virginia · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmSome writers of comments have homed in on unions as if they were the sole cause of these abuses. But similar abuses happen in states with other levels of unionization (or non-unionization, like Virginia). Neither large institutions nor small homes are the single answer. As in every other aspect of life, the same size and shape does not fit everyone.
210. Manny · Haverford, PA · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmI have a young daughter who appears to be on a path into some environment where complete care is mandated -- I am working continuously (and after reading this article and comments with renewed fear) to put supports in place that scale in time, money and people. I cannot trust the existing social services, so I am trusting people. Fortunately there are very many good people, and I expect to find more -- I just rarely find them in places where they can do the amount of work needed (e.g., attorney-general, business leaders, ...).
There are many issues that call out for help, but this population, those that cannot speak or even have the cognitive abilities needed to recognize the problem, needs to be prioritized by everyone.
211. Unforgiving · Corinth,NY · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmAs a New Yorker I am appalled to think WE will pay a retirement to such a person as mentioned in your article today.The one in Hudson Falls,NY.
This inhuman does not deserve to collect anything from OUR tax money.
Maybe he should of been kept in jail forever,thats what he deserves SHAME ON YOU for letting him be free.What a disgrace!!!!Then for him to act so cocky in his remarks makes me sick.
212. Green Man's view · Ronkonkoma N.Y. · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmYears ago when closing the large institutions was enacted.
Most people probably aren't aware that female adults were in many instances kept safe after 4p.m. by not allowing anyone into their sleeping quarters without a sign in.
This was done as many female residents with mental problems especially ones that were attractive were abused even by doctors.
Why haven't we learned from the past?
213. abc · Oregon · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmPeople educated in human services did not get a college degree to change diapers and scrub toilets. People willing to do those jobs, often do not have what it takes to provide skillful, compassionate support to people with developmental disabilities. (Although there are many wonderful exceptions!) Throwing money at the problem can only do so much - it might even cause bad people to dig in their heels and stay in the field just for the money. We don't have enough of a culture in this country where people feel like caring for someone's basic needs is honorable work. It turns out being an extremely difficult and thankless job, and rather than being seen as a good person for doing it, you might be stigmatized by association with a stigmatized population. It's no wonder that only a certain group - those with extremely strong values or those who couldn't find other work, end up in this job. It's horrible to think - if everyone who should be fired was fired, there wouldn't be enough people left to do the job - this is a dangerous situation. If we as a society want people with disabilities to be treated well - we can't keep thinking we can just hire someone else to do it. We have to start believing that providing really great care is a rewarding life's work. How do we get from here to there? Would you suggest this kind of work to your A student child? If no, why not? Some difficult lines of work are respected in our society - like Firefighters, Military and Police - others are not, and those professions seem to suffer. You might be able to get rid of some of these repeat offenders by cracking down on employees and prosecuting the crimes,(which should definitely be done!) but until you can attract the right people into this profession, you will just have to keep firing and arresting people - who will be left?
214. Patricia Sprofera · East Elmhurst, NY · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pm215. RandomGal · Mass · March 13th, 2011 10:29 pmIt's true - management gets the unions they deserve. Due to the overwhelming hostility against them, unions develop a counterproductive fight everything all the time attitude. The management model of "locals" with each place of employment having its own union office, usually staffed by people who used to work for the company they are now "bargaining" with, is a recipe for trouble.
In model that has emerged in Europe, unions are staffed by professionals and cover many companies, allowing for perspective. Employee training and even discipline are often handled by the union, with productivity benchmarks used in salary negotiations. In a case like this, abuse prevention could be something the union would have to agree to and zero tolerance would be required in the contract. If someone were to receive training and be reassigned, the union would be help responsible if a member reoffended.
Brotherhood goes both ways.
216. Fourthaaron · NY · March 14th, 2011 12:24 amI want to thank Danny Hakim and the New York Times for doing the job of real journalists. This is investigative journalism at its best. You have brought sunlight in which is the best disinfectant.
Already Governor Cuomo has fired the heads of the branch responsible to keep this problem in the
public eye and to stamp out abuses. Mr. Hakim exposed the ways the workers and agencies were trying to
cover their tracks and to retaliate against a conscientious aide. Law enforcement needs to be brought in to
do proper evaluations of abuse complaints. As stated above, the community should be more involved and independent advocates appointed. Thank you Danny Hakim. Please keep it up!
217. soshaljustic · Honolulu,HI · March 14th, 2011 12:25 amI live in a group home because of epilepsy! Graduated last May with 3 degrees after having brain surgery 8 years ago, yet still seizure. I am due to start my Masters in Fall. I am vice chair of my neighborhood board for the past 3 years. I have witnessed abuse and have been abused myself, most recently especially. I am reading this article while having planned to go to my State legislator tomorrow with a complaint against the home and State licensed owners! I have assisted these owners but I will not accept their abuse and harassment, nor the other clients in the house. If the owners fail to do their jobs I will make sure the State does it's job in forming an oversight board or commission for these homes in the State of Hawaii! If not, I go the Feds with a federal case for assistance!
218. Middlevillager · Florida · March 14th, 2011 12:25 amThis is the most frightening article I've read, ever! We are all at risk to have this happen if we do not have an plan or family or money and become mentally or physically ill. We cannot expect the 'State' to help us. Some of us cannot even except family members to help either. I applaud the NY governor for looking into this horific situation.
219. Marsha Keeffer · Santa Cruz, California · March 14th, 2011 12:25 amAs a California-licensed private fiduciary, I'm glad to see this coming to light. It's a dreadful situation. The same problems exist regarding care of the elderly, mentally ill and children. In all cases, abuse - whether verbal, physical, emotional, mental or other - should be responded to with vigorous prosecution by the district attorney. This is not a civil issue - it is criminal.
Solutions include 1.) Increase worker qualifications, 2.) Combine community facilities into EU-type mid-sized 'dorms' where people with similar needs can receive better and varied programs, 3.) Establish supervision methods that work, including performance plans for every employee, 4.) Create a state administrator who oversees all programs and reports directly to the governor.
Thank you to the journalists and editors of the New York Times - this story is a tremendous public service.
220. abilenejohn · Abilene, TX · March 14th, 2011 12:25 amFrom the lead, I was waiting for a statement like this:
"The state initiated termination proceedings in 129 of the cases reviewed but succeeded in just 30 of them, in large part because the workers' union, the Civil Service Employees Association, aggressively resisted firings in almost every case. A few employees resigned, even though the state sought only suspensions."
This is why people have stop believing in unions.
221. DJS · New York · March 14th, 2011 12:26 amThis piece made me ill. I could not read the entire article. My heart goes out to the victims of the abuse. There is plenty of guilt to go around. The vulnerable victims have been failed by many. Charges should be brought against the former head of the agency, not just a slap on the wrist. Transferring abusers reminds me all too well of the transfer of abusers in the Catholic Church.
Does anyone of these people ever stop and think "this could be MY child, my brother, my sister, my mother, my cousin- ME ??!
Apparently not.
It is time to get rid of unions, pure and simple.They have outlived their usefulness and have become nothing more than expensive burdens and far worse in terms of protecting clear predators.
The next place that the Times should shed its investigative journalistic light on should be the short term psychiatric units in hospitals,including prominent ones in the New York area . I know for a fact that staff abuse of vulnerable patients is going on there.
222. red · ny · March 14th, 2011 12:26 amI worked with individuals with developmental disability in Canada and now in the state of NY. After reading the article, there's a lot of disturbing issues mentioned that needs to be addressed. One issue that troubles me most are the union's defense of staff who are repeat offenders. It is unacceptable that a staff who was known to have abused an individual with developmental disability was allowed to remain in the job. The reasoning "It is our job" doesn't make sense. How can they go on with their life knowing that the person they defended to remain in job can and had repeatedly abused individuals with developmental disability? How would they feel if the individual with developmental disability is their son/daughter?
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