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United Nations report on Human Development

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Antigen:
Thanks. But how is a black hole chaotic? Just because we don't (yet?) understand how they work doesn't mean it doesn't make perfect sense.
The right of self-defense is the first law of nature . . and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.

--St. George Tucker, in his edition of Blackstone's Commentaries
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Froderik:
Oh, they make sense, allright. They exist, therefore they make sense in that sense of making sense. My point was that they would be chaotic to anything that would get sucked into them. Ok, another example: A hurricane or tidal wave. Chaos.

Antigen:
Well, I know something about the chaos of a hurricane. I'll never forget what happened after Hurricane Andrew wiped out a large swath of Homestead, Florida. Water systems, communications (including the Doppler weather station), power and similar infrastructure systems were inoperative for days or weeks in some spots. Roadways were impassible, so police and emergency people couldn't get in to give aid and assistance. There was sporadic, but not really rampant, looting and price gouging and such unpleasant behavior.

Now, if you accept the notion that, without the imposition of government control, we all turn into murderous savages, then you'd expect to have seen a lot of rape, murder and total bedlem in the wake of that devistating storm. What happened instead was that FEMA set up checkpoints to keep people who wanted to go lend assistance from entering the worst areas. Many of them snuck around the roadblocks and went ahead wrecklessly delivering clean water, food and other necessities to the people stranded there. The biker clubs were an especially big help, as they had better mobility and practically no fear of authority. People already there formed loose organizations to look after kids and property while others took their bikes or hoofed it to go find water and other necessities.

In no time at all, people rebuilt or worked around all that had been torn down by the storm.

Chaos is like a vacume. The universe resists it and so does normal, default human nature.
To seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.

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kaydeejaded:
ahhh good old John Locke and the state of nature given the choice I believe I would of opted out of the social contract and taken my chances


Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its
best state is but a necessary evil ---in its worst state an
intolerable one; for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same
miseries by a government, which we might expect in a country without
government, our calamities is heightened by reflecting that we
furnish the means by which we suffer!


Thomas Paine, Common Sense
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exsafecounselor:
This is to the Anon who starte off this post.  I have 3 words for you-Standard of Living.  Enough Said!  If you think that people have more opportunities in Slovakia than you need to do a bit more homework.


[ This Message was edited by: exsafecounselor on 2004-01-02 11:54 ]

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