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PLEASE HELP!!! Should I send my son to Hyde???
Wh??ter:
--- Quote from: "Misled" ---Whooter,
How can you say you are impartial? Also, how can you attest to Hyde being a great place that turns kids around unless you have personally experienced Hyde. I have experienced Hyde and I can tell you that it is seldom that they turn kids around. Not only does Hyde seldom turn kids around, but they damage the kids who are there by giving them a very poor education while continuing to say they are a "college prep school." Prep for what?
There have been accusations of sexual abuse, physical confrontations between students and faculty, and one faculty member, (part of the family) was fired for plagiarism. Another long time faculty member was fired after being sued by a family for sexually molesting their child. The school still allows him to hang around the school while the wife continues to teach there. The reason these things don't come to light is because when a parent raises a stink, they get rid of the family, or pay them off. Trust me when I tell you there have been many instances of inappropriate acts by the faculty at Hyde, but most family's want to get the hell out of there and forget they ever went to Hyde. I saw this many times while at Hyde, what about you Whooter? What did you experience while on campus? Where you on campus when one of the long time faculty members physically attacked a kid? Or were you there when someone was hurt so badly they went to the hospital with a concussion only to be brought back to campus, without being checked on through the night or the parents being informed? If you aren't a former student, then you must be an Ed Consultant! Whatever or whoever you are, Hyde can in no way be called a college prep boarding school or a school that "turns kids around."
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Misled, the very reason I am here is to add balance to the discussion. I see both sides clearly. Many of you only see only see one side and aren't capable of recognizing that there are always two sides to every story. I am completely unbiased and able to see the good and the bad of the industry. Maybe someday you will also be able to.
Hyde has been around a long time and has helped many youths get back on track. If the things you are claiming actually happened, why hasn't anyone been arrested, charged or convicted of anything? Doesn't it seem a little strange to you that Hyde staff could be assaulting and raping kids and not one kid or one parent or one good staff member has ever gone to the police? Not everyone can be "brainwashed" or "bought off", Misled. We can all agree that scenario doesn't hold water.
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hgrant:
whooter is a shill for the industry or for hyde itself...there is no other explanation for his slobbering worship of the hyde demons...my guess is his wife or brother is employed somehow in "rehabilitating" bad kids...he's a jerk off who would do or say anything to protect whatever it is he's protecting from all this criticism.
Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Wh??ter" ---Misled, the very reason I am here is to add balance to the discussion. I see both sides clearly. Many of you only see only see one side and aren't capable of recognizing that there are always two sides to every story. I am completely unbiased and able to see the good and the bad of the industry. Maybe someday you will also be able to.
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Hey, why limit yourself to just two?! There are always many sides to any story! That doesn't mean that they're all equally valid, however. Some sides may be missing some information; some sides may have a skewed POV due to "special circumstances," etc. etc.
--- Quote from: "Wh??ter" ---Hyde has been around a long time and has helped many youths get back on track. If the things you are claiming actually happened, why hasn't anyone been arrested, charged or convicted of anything? Doesn't it seem a little strange to you that Hyde staff could be assaulting and raping kids and not one kid or one parent or one good staff member has ever gone to the police? Not everyone can be "brainwashed" or "bought off", Misled. We can all agree that scenario doesn't hold water.
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Lol. With your reasoning, Wh??ter, we might as well discount all those allegations regarding pedophile priests in the Catholic Church. After all, that shit's been going on for centuries. Must be bogus!
I'll tell you one thing about going to the police, at least as far as Hyde School's Bath, Maine, location goes: you can find a nice not-so-little placard reading "Truth Over Harmony" hanging up on the wall in the local police station. Gee, I wonder where they got that from?
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quanat:
--- Quote from: "hgrant" ---to ursus:...i think you can see by the post from whooter following yours exactly what kind of character this fellow is. Knowing absolutely nothing about the circumstances, he proclaims Hyde could not have had anything to do with my son's death and even describes the circumstances that would convince him otherwise...he is also now an expert on suicide and et al...His obsessive defense of this institution is a pathology in itself.
i am not ready, even after these years to discuss the details of what happened to my son, the long tortured path that led to his death. I said that Hyde was a station along the way and contributed, though Hyde is not solely responsible in that sense. am also afraid to give too much away that might identify me to Hyde trolls (like Whooter?) or others. The people at Hyde have shown they are quite capable of the most nefarious behavior in protecting their God Gauld and their little enterprise and I have no room left in me for fighting. I can tell you that they spun him like a rat...changing the maze whenever he thought he had it down and convincing him that he was a piece of s--- unless he played their game. He couldn't. He didn't. He failed there and they smashed his self-confidence to pieces. He was weak, mentally ill, needed some form of treatment but no one recognized it. I pulled him out jail over and over again, retrieved him from international locales after he'd been arrested, incarcerated in various institutions...his illness progressed and everyone along the way who made it worse - like the people at Hyde - contributed. I contributed myself. When your 20-year-old son takes your shotgun after breaking into a gun cabinet and blows his brains out, you are also destroyed by it. Suffice to say that the vulnerable types must be protected from institutions like Hyde because Hyde is no different from the general society, in that respect. Who doesn't conform, is destroyed. It is the school's failure to determine who it can help and who it cannot - who it will in fact make worse - that makes it a quasi-criminal enterprise. any truly idealistic institution would recognize its limitations to protect those it might harm. Not Hyde. Money drives hyde. Money, power and self-aggrandizement are its stock in trader. Once they get your money, it's actually in their interest to force you out because it's non-refundable and they get paid for not doing anything. Meanwhile the next fool steps up, urged on by Mr. Whooter, no doubt and another $30-40-50,000 goes into the company safe. It's a racket run by a kind of mafiosi, sociopaths with suits and sob stories and a very slick brochure. I really wonder what Whooter's agendas is here....do others?
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i am confident Hyde caused your poor son's suicide (arguably murder). being tortured into submission is not an easy thing to live past. i am very sorry you got involved with those violent lunatics.
Misled:
Whooter, I don't know how you can make certain statements. You ask why no one has gone to the police. In my couple of years there, I know of instances where the police have been called in as well as social services. Don't make statements you can't back up. From what you have written, you have no first hand experience at Hyde so you shouldn't make blanket statements!
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