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PLEASE HELP!!! Should I send my son to Hyde???

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Wh??ter:

--- Quote from: "hgrant" ---to the parent...you can see by this discussion that every once in a while you come across really extreme advocacy for Hyde. I urge you to be wary on this basis alone. This whooter or whoever he/she is, is a shill for the troubled teen industry and even if he/she isn't making money directly from placements etc./, if you investigated i can almost guarantee you will find that he/she/it is insinuated into the system somehow. There are many children who go through hyde and come out the other side but that isn't the issue...those cretins don't know one illness from another from a third and they simply put everyone through the same filter, discarding those who don't pass...if your child is among them, he will be destroyed by the hyde process...it's hyde as in dr. jeckyl and mr. hyde. these people ( i use the term loosely - they are monsters in their own right) are self-appointed cultists, emotional terrorists and liars through and through...the fact that some less vulnerable children survive the experience and come back prosthelytizing for the cause means nothing...these people and many like them should be shut down and i believe that sooner or later the awful truth about what goes on at hyde will "out" and people like mr. wooster/rooster here will find some new excuse for it...don't send your son to hyde unless you are certain that he is strong enough to withstand the emotional battering he will receive there. they have made themselves very rich on the despair of others and employ their family and friends and other advocates as rewards - just like any cult...these people are dangerous, untrustworthy and eventually I believe they will be seen as criminal.
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Oh come on, hgrant this is too much.  Hyde is a well respected and successful school.  Don't you think if what you are saying is true that it would have been discovered a long time ago and it would have been shut down.  Hint, that never happened.  Why?  Because everyone knows Hyde takes trouble teens and turns them around.  

Did you graduate Hyde, hgrant?  Or are you like most people here that make these crazy statements but have never even been to Hyde?  Or did you not do well and fail out?



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hgrant:
i am not sure this jerk deserves a reply, but i think i made my association with hyde completely clear in my first post...in any event, whooter's association with the industry is still suspect and i urge anyone considering hyde as a destination for a troubled child to disregard the sycophantic gibberish he spouts as having any real validity. if you have a psychologist or counsellor, by the way, who also seems like a hyde advocate, ask them outright if they received kickbacks for recommendations. you may be surprised and sickened by the response. years of abuse by the catholic church went unreported for centuries. does that mean it didn't happen. this whooter is a shill, as i said before. a liar, a shill, a conman and probably on the take in some form. ignore him.

Wh??ter:

--- Quote from: "hgrant" ---i am not sure this jerk deserves a reply, but i think i made my association with hyde completely clear in my first post...in any event, whooter's association with the industry is still suspect and i urge anyone considering hyde as a destination for a troubled child to disregard the sycophantic gibberish he spouts as having any real validity. if you have a psychologist or counsellor, by the way, who also seems like a hyde advocate, ask them outright if they received kickbacks for recommendations. you may be surprised and sickened by the response. years of abuse by the catholic church went unreported for centuries. does that mean it didn't happen. this whooter is a shill, as i said before. a liar, a shill, a conman and probably on the take in some form. ignore him.
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It appears this poster did not do well at Hyde.  Hyde doesn't teach kids to call names and make wild accusations as far as I know.  I think he needs some more character development.



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Ursus:

--- Quote from: "hgrant" ---i hesitate to respond, only because of the dark place in my life created by the psychopaths at this institution. a friend has called me at his wits end because his son, 17, is about to be expelled from another private institution for misbehavior...nothing violent, but anti-social, you might call it. Defacating from dorm windows, defiance, refusal to follow any instructions...etc. You either know the behavior i am referring to or you do not. Now a wilderness program is being suggested and my nightmares return. This past February was the fourth anniversary of my son's suicide in the basement. Prior to that he had spent some time at Hyde, perhaps a year or less and whatever problems he had to begin with were so exacerbated by his experiences there that i have always linked the two. I couldn't say it was direct because there was some time between when he was thrown out of hyde and when he shot himself, but i believe to this day that the actions of the head of that school and several of its psycho caretakers were direct contributors. i can't go into details about what happened at hyde except to to say that the profound, deep, dishonesty practiced by the staff, many of whom i am sure are unqualified to be called such, the cultism, the terrorism inflicted on already disturbed children would result in long prison terms to the practioners thereof in any reasonable society. Hyde, in my opinion, is a nightmare, a mental torture chamber created by a psychopaths and created to breed acolytes...Do not send your son to Hyde. If you have already done so and he wants out; do not believe the staff at Hyde. Their entire purpose functions just as the street soldiers of Scientology function to recruit and impress more members. If you want to discuss this personally, face to face (figuratively speaking) perhaps there is some way to arrange this, though I don't know how we might accomplish this. If I were a praying man, I would pray for you and your son; as it is, I can only avail you of the benefit of my experience there and the terrible consequences one faces when allowing these kinds of individuals to oversee the psychological development of a child, especially one already having difficulty in the world.
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I'm very sorry to hear of the tragic and untimely end to your son's life, hgrant! Sadly, as more people find this forum, one hears of more stories like this.

I am curious as to what actions on the part of the school admins and staff you felt were contributing factors. If you'd rather not state it on the thread, please feel free to PM me.

Wh??ter:
I don't see how this poor kid's suicide could be blamed on Hyde unless he left a note or something saying this is why he did it.  Many people unfortunately commit suicide for many reasons, usually depression.  Blaming the school does not seem to be logical at all.  A guy I went to school with killed himself last year but people aren't going around blaming our school.  Almost all of us are doing great, just like kids who went to Hyde.



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