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Art Barker & the Beginning of the SEED
Anonymous:
Thanks Lizard King. You are right :scared: I misspelled something. You know haw stupid we cult people are. It's kinda like we are southern or sumpin!
GregFL:
Hey, if we are going to start correcting spelling, then it is going to be a full time job.
Easy there fella. And Lizard King, welcome to the forum. Were you in the seed?
Somejoker:
--- Quote ---On 2004-11-10 09:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Antigin. Are you sure that place wasn't a cult too. Maybe they made someone do too many pushups which caused them some permanent damage. Maybe they gave someone too close of a crew cut and now years later they can't get erect because of it. Come on you know everything in this world is fake you can't believe in anyone or anything because their are cultic tones behind everything. Beware of kindness and love for their are always ulterior motives behind everything. :scared: "
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What exactly is your problem anyway Anon? You seem to always glee in sarcastically attacking people and post here constantly but won't even pick a user name. What are you up to now, 77 posts or so?
No need to hide behind that anon moniker, I know you are an ex staffer, but really none of that matters here. You want to discuss something go ahead, but your bitterness towards others hasn't gone unnoticed. No one else here really feels that way towards others and not towards you either.
BTW, I deleted your other direct attack on Ginger. I really served no purpose on this website.
Now if you got something intelligent to say, we are listening.
Antigen:
Yeah, I wonder who you are and why you seem to have it in for me so much. What did I ever do to you?
Anyway, to answer your question, I'm not sure that AMI is a wonderful, faultless organization. I first became aware of them a few years ago when a couple of kids sentenced to the camp at Big Cypress killed a young counselor during an escape. So I don't give them an unreserved endorsement. I just note that they've been around for about 35 years and haven't generated the kind of bad press and longterm resentment that the Synanon based programs have.
As we're talking about someone for whom The Seed was better than anything else they knew, I think it's quite relavent to note that there have been better alternatives all along.
Homeschool is self regulating. The school board is not going to have illiterate useless people living in their homes forever if they don't have a working education policy.
--Sisterbluerose
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TheSeedIndeed:
I thought of Art Barker yesterday, and decided to google him. This forum was the first hit. Amazing. I was in the Cleveland Ohio Seed, 1976 to 78. and remember well, Ginger, Hank, Cookie and of course Art. I also remember well the abandonment we felt when the Seed skipped town in the middle of the night. I remember wondering what deep dark secret there must be that a little negative press caused the org to turn tail and run. I remember showing up and finding the doors locked even though I was scheduled to spend the night and watch the phones. I remember at the time we got no notification, and rumors were rampant amongst our northern clan.
My own memories of the Seed on the whole are wholesome. In the 25 years since, I have to admit the Seed did me some good. The basic princepals, although I don't sing Zipidy-do-dah everyday now. Maybe I should.
Ginger, glad to hear you're well. Had a major crush on you back then. - a combination of lust and respect.
Seed things that have helped me, - do the right things and the right things will happen - learning empathy towards others - the need to make amends..
I still carry these things with me everyday. I can't say the Seed saved my life, but it did change the course of my life for sure.
Thanks for the memories,
Steve in Cleveland
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