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Art Barker & the Beginning of the SEED
Robin Martin:
Thanks Greg for correcting me in regards to the building being provided "rent free" for the 1st year - you are correct. 1973?? I could have sworn it was '71 but then again, I was so f***** up. I never thought I would forgot my intake date!! Actually, Susie did my intake and "boldface lied to me telling me if I didn't like it after two days I could sign myself out". Yeah, right - best lie I've ever been told!! Yes, I was shooting drugs and never have after the day I entered. I really don't care what they did or how they did it but for a hardcore chickie, it worked and made my life a lot clearer and gave me access to a whole new world which I will be forever grateful. Sorry for using full names - understand! Thanks for the response!
Marijuana clearly has medicinal value.
Thousands of seriously ill Americans have
been able to determine that for themselves,
albeit illegally. Like my own family, these
individuals did not wish to break the law but
they had no choice.
--Lyn Nofziger, former deputy chairman of the Republican National Committee
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Robin Martin:
Thanks! Sometimes I wonder if I'm alone in my beliefs as to what the Seed REALLY did for me. Then again, it's not as important as the end result, you know?
To go to Journal of Applied Polymer Science go to http://www3.interscience.wiley.com and then journal search and put the journal number and year
-- Journal of Applied Polymer Science Vol. 47, 1984
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Somejoker:
Robin, I have a few quesions and a comment for you.
First the comment...If you were shooting drugs before the seed and after graduating no longer did, That is obviously a positive result and I commend YOU.
Now the question, if you are going to credit the seed for that, than who do we blame for Seed graduates that never shot drugs before the Seed and did so after?
Hint (a graduate friend of mine did just that and died).
If someone wasn't suicidal before the seed and shot himself as an oldcomer or after graduating jumped off the skyway feeling worthless and alone, who again is to blame?
another hint (true stories of true oldcomers and graduates).
Why did so many seed graduates in St Pete start using drugs again? Why is one on death row right now?
My point being is...Who really "saved" you?
final hint (look in the mirror)
[ This Message was edited by: Somejoker on 2004-10-26 19:25 ][ This Message was edited by: Somejoker on 2004-10-26 19:25 ]
Robin Martin:
Thanks for the congrats! I had a lot of help.
Well - first, one has to WANT to change, right?
which I so desperately did.
Second, I think most of us had some form of 'demon' and made a choice OR NOT to get to the core and get to work on the changes.
Third, is to realize if "you're going through hell, keep on going" -Winston Churchill
...and I did!!!
I give the Seed credit in providing me the tools in which to take command of my life. It's very sad to hear someone has gone back to an old lifestyle or is in constant struggle for happiness - never feeling worthy of the grace to be alive. Due to many trials in my life, there were times after graduation that I too, considered suicide, but alas, I'm chicken.
It sounds so cliche, but I never believe there is anyone to blame but ourselves for our choices and behaviors.
Yes - I look in the mirror every day and give thanks for another day above ground.
GregFL:
The only time in my entire life I seriously contemplated suicide was when I was sixteen, a seed graduate, and my father was plotting to throw me back in the program.
After I got away from him and the threat of the seed I started recovering, but it took years.
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