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Art Barker & the Beginning of the SEED
Anonymous:
I was involved with the seed since the 60's with family members & knew Art Barker well. Curious to hear your thoughts. Those of us involved/brainwashed long term...what kind of impact do you think that had on a person...was it true sobriety as described in AA or lacking.
Very curious to learn more about it.
Anonymous:
Art was involved with AA & was Jackie Gleason & Art Carney's sponsor until he left AA saying "they were a bunch of cold pricks & he wanted to be a nice person". Very curious to learn more about my roots that were tainted back then.
GregFL:
Welcome to the seed discussion forum. I visited the sr 84 location while I was a seed oldcomer and also drove by it many times after graduating and living in ft lauderdale. A few time I yelled "the seed sucks" As I drove by, half scared, half beligerent as driving by.
Many years gone by. What are your impressions of the long term affects of your involvement in the Seed cult?
Anonymous:
Did you ever stop to think why Lybbi is so heavy into dog training...still controlling behavior of trapped spiritual beings...she controls their food, punishes them, withholds love/attention until the "appropriate" behavior is exhibited. But it's not considered abuse of children now. Poor puppies.
Anonymous:
I was in the Seed in early 70's when it was on hwy 84 in the old blimp hanger. I think it was about a year before someone gave them a bunch of broken marble to put together for some of the floors. My Mom was recruited by another Seed parent (typical of cults). I tried pot 1 time but of course no one there believed me. I had to make up stories to fit in and get better. I lost over one year of school which I would never be able to replace. Did I need help? Yep, I was a spoiled brat. Being throw into the SEED was not what I needed. I remember going back one time years later as an oldimer to help out. My finance called there to speak to me (I had a long drive with a very old car) and the last thing I remember was Art coming in and screaming and cursing at me for the gall of my finance to call me there. After I ran to the bathroom crying, Libby came in after me to tell me Art was having a "BAD" day. Art of course was above apologies. NOBODY ever questioned Art, after all he gave his life to save ours...What a bunch of crap! How he suffered for us, how he left his BIG career as a standup comic (later to find out he was washed up literally) to help us poor helpless kids. I can still see him leaving in the limo driven by Robert. He had more money than anyone really knew about. I also believe there were a few other things in his past he was not happy for others to find out.
Being thrown into the Seed was the single worst thing that ever happened to me. I took over a year to graduate, mostly because I couldn't come up with good enough stories to repent about. The only fond memory I had was "skipping" the Seed as an old comer one weekend, was the best afternoon I had had in a year. Ran dirt bikes through the Orbit area all day.
Other than the Seed meetings being horrible, some of the homes I had to stay in were, well let me just say were different.
The Seed and it's followers definitely fit all the criteria of being a cult. You know what they say, "if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck...."
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