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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---I side with the parents on this one. I have gone through weekend workshops where I was completely brainwashed and found it to be pleasent in the end - not realizing that I had been used minipulated and bilked out of money.
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Ignorance is bliss. Well then, if the parents were brainwashed, then society as a whole must be brainwashed and everytime someone in society commits a crime against another individual can just say "the devil made me do it."
The parents have not been brainwashed. They have willingly bought into a set of beliefs. That is not brainwashing.
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-12-01 13:03:00, Anonymous wrote:
Ignorance is bliss. Well then, if the parents were brainwashed, then society as a whole must be brainwashed and everytime someone in society commits a crime against another individual can just say "the devil made me do it."
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Exactly! Just like Rush Limbaugh recently seems to have been absolved of all responsibility for his felony drug transactions. Same argument. Good ol'e Rush didn't do anything wrong, it was the evil drugs that committed the crimes.
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The parents have not been brainwashed. They have willingly bought into a set of beliefs. That is not brainwashing.
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Look, it really isn't about the kids at all. It's all about the parents. Kids can't write such big checks.
Always try to do things in chronological order; it's less confusing that way.
--Unknown
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Anonymous:
Take literature to the camps? What are you smoking and can I have some? :smile:
Look, if you try to take literature to a TBS you're going to run into gates, then you're going to run into cops giving you a criminal trespass warning, and then if you stay, you're going to run into jail.
It's a nice idea, but not one of the potentially practical solutions out there.
Ginger is right about one thing, until there's a certain threshhold of public awareness reached, laws won't help because the cops can turn a blind eye with impunity.
I don't agree that laws won't help *after* there's enough awareness to hold the cops accountable, but I do agree that for now, the vast majority of more or less normal adult voters need to be made aware of what's going on so the programs can't hide in the shadows anymore.
Antigen:
I think you'll find that the constitutional laws we have in place, minus the (reams and volumes of) unconstitutional statutes will work quite well IF we, as a society, can come back around to our founding principles. I'm not at all sure that's going to happen, but I do hold out some hope.
People who are willing to give up freedom for the sake of short term security, deserve neither freedom nor security.
--Benjamin Franklin
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