Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
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Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2003-11-30 09:04:00, Anonymous wrote:
That can explain why, or suggest, that the kids in these programs may be or may have been brainwashed...but, that does not explain why the parents who place their kids in these programs can claim to also have been brainwashed. I think the parents who place their kids in these programs are tyring to brainwash their kids. I think that is exactly what they want the end result to be.
The parent who claim they too were brainwashed are just disatisfied consumers. "
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To really get the full impact of how the parents get brainwashed, you almost have to go there and see for yourself. I sort of understood it years ago, at least as an abstract fact.
My dad went along with the program, violating a lot of his own personal code, because he believed that any kid who smoked pot, talked back to adults, was disobedient, etc., would either join the Mansons or die a skidrow junkie whore. That belief distorted his perceptions of everything as I turned into one of those terrifying, inscrutable teenager monsters.
He didn't come to these conclusions on his own. And he wasn't the only intelligent, principled man I ever saw fall for the scam.
Just look at the way these places go about advertising. Look at the "signs of _____" (fill in your favorite disorder) that they use in their marketing. Then call them up and tell them a story about a moody 13 year old and take a tour through their high pressure sales routine.
They point to past failures with different kinds of therapy as proof that the kid is seriously messed up when, in many cases, it's the constant harassment by various shrinks and altruists that are giving the kid so much grief. They get these parents convinced that, without the magic cure, their children are doomed to die.
Now, all these years later, I'm the mommy. And it is terrifying when your kids get too big for us to watch over them and keep them safe all the time but they're still too young to really think much about long term consequences and risk assessment.
My dad taught me a very simple truth from a very early age. And I think it helped save us both in the end. The world is a fucked up place full of demented people. This has always been true. There is no Utopia. The name, itself, means, litterally "place that doesn't exist". There is neither a reliable "cure" for a difficult adolescance nor is there really a warewolf-like disease called ODD. Opposition to abuse and defiance of ppl who demand obedience but fail to earn our respect is not a disorder!
If I didn't know what I do about this scam, I might just as easily have fallen for it as anybody.
Janis, Jimi, Jerry, Timothy... Do you HAVE to get this close to the edge to get a really good view?
-- Anonymous
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Antigen:
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On 2003-11-30 09:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If you think about it, life is one big behavior modification program. Thank God for sex, drugs and Rock 'n Roll.
:wstupid:
Legalizing drugs would simultaneously reduce the amount of crime and raise the quality of law enforcement. Can you conceive of any other measure that would accomplish so much to promote law and order?
--Economist Milton Friedman
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Deborah:
I don't recall seeing an actual contract posted here, but here's a couple of links to Parent Manual which lay out the program and policies. My guess is that the contract is a condensed version of the manual.
TB- http://www.adolescentspecialtyschools.c ... itybay.pdf
Casa- http://www.adolescentspecialtyschools.c ... l_casa.pdf
Anonymous:
It only takes about 3 days to induce Stockholm Syndrome. Get a parent to a seminar, and you can brainwash them pretty effectively---because while you're IN the seminar, you're physically isolated from other inputs.
Look at how many people fall for motivational speakers or timeshares or Amway.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---It only takes about 3 days to induce Stockholm Syndrome. Get a parent to a seminar, and you can brainwash them pretty effectively---because while you're IN the seminar, you're physically isolated from other inputs.
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That is B.S. Brainwashing is being forced to buy into something you don't already beleive in. Forced being the operative word here. Parents who go to these seminars go there willingly and accept what they are being fed willingly. You need to understand the difference between gullability and brainwashing. Parents are not held captive. They are there by choice and can live when ever they so chose.
You parents who claim you were brainwashed are full of crap.
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