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Anonymous:
I once knew a parent who deliberately destroyed her 16 year old daughter's property because she (the mother) was out-of-control on valium and chardonay. She lived next door to me and it was rare not to hear that lady ranting and raging at her kids, but especially the teenager daughter. Last I heard, the girl had run away and the mother had joined some toughlove support group. The mother, btw, was an attorney.
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Antigen:
I don't think anyone should have to live with anyone who deliberatly destroys their mind.
We're sending these kids off to be mentally, emotionally and spiritually broken simply for responding like children to abuse and neglect by their own families. Well, they are children, for Christ's sake!
"Our friends and allies in the Middle East and Europe will soon be subject to forms of intimidation by an Iraqi government bent on dominating the Middle East and its oil reserves,"
Project for the New American Century (were they talking about themselves?)
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Anonymous:
If there is abuse and neglect, then that's one thing. Sometimes there isn't. Sometimes there's just a destructive kid in a family that otherwise has pretty average problems.
It doesn't justify sending the kid off to be abused and neglected, but it maybe does justify sending the kid off to a place that is not abusive (if you can find one).
What are they supposed to do? You can't kick the kid out on the street without getting arrested, and if you keep the kid at home and the kid destroys other people's stuff, you're liable.
I mean, after you've tried family therapy, and everything else you can think of.
What if your kid is Kip Kinkle?
Sometimes, commitment is the only rational choice you've got left.
However, there are a lot of parents who send kids off for trivial reasons, or too soon, and I do think that a kid should have the same protections against involuntary commitment that adults have. If the kid is destructive of his/her parents' home, then it should be treated in juvenile court just as if the kid had done the same damage in a neighbor's home.
Antigen:
There are two primary differences between the private teen prison industry and the criminal justice system. In the criminal justice system, it's customary (not always done, but at least there's the expectation) to require some kind of objective evidence of some kind of real problem before you can lock someone up. And once a person is locked up in the criminal justice system, there's only so much they can do to them.
If your kid is shooting up the school, naturally they need to go down. But these kids are not shooting up any schools. That hardly ever happens. They're just cussing their parents or throwing tantrums or smoking pot. I know, I know. Gone Way Down and Not My Kid instruct you to interpret this kind of behavior as definite precursors to future psychosis, wreck and ruin. And Sally Jesse Raphael, Oprah and Good Morning America will all chime in and support that rediculous assumption. But that doesn't make it true.
If your kid is in real trouble, the criminal justice system gives better odds of a good outcome for your family than the teen gulag industry ever well. I would NOT recomend calling the cops on your own kid. If it's bound to happen, leave that to someone else and you just be there for them when they remember that they need you. That's what parents are supposed to do, after all, isn't it?
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
--Unanimous
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Anonymous:
What I gathered from the posts is that many of these parents are afraid of losing control of their kid's attitude and behavior and are forcing them into some therapeutic (or not) locked residential school or program for a couple of years in exchange for a better engineered kid. One that makes all the right choices on cue (read low maintenance).
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