Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Troubled Teen Industry
An unfortunate case...
RichTitsch:
Melissa:
Why in the world would you start-up with me? What's fishy about what I have said or done? My goal is to present information coupled with my belief that the Tranquility Bay Program is dangerous, the person in charge has no credentials to run the place, and that the methodology used in the "treatment" of these kids is more akin to torture than treatment. I've spent money putting up the Board, driving to Treasure Beach, returning many calls, sending FEDEX, faxes and speaking to a wide variety of people. I have no children or relatives that have ever been in the program and I am not affiliated with WWASP, PURE, ISAC or anyone else. I'm just a guy who is saying (forgive me Frod 13 for borrowing your vernacular) that this is totally fucked-up, it has to stop and it needs to be done now.
Also, I was introduced to this situation simply by reading a law case; to wit, State v. VanBlarigan(which I do in the course of being a Legal Assistant) and then speaking to the very kind-hearted, now deceased Donna H. (http://www.intrepidnetreporter.com)who asked me to investigate and write an article for her extremely laudable webnewspaper.
As far as your criticism concerning my bulletin board, it's received nearly 130 hits a day and has only been open for 12 days. Evidently, there are those who do like it, find it informative and come back frequently.
If I were more like FROD (and a lot of times I wish I were) you would be getting the exact same tongue-lashing that he's been handing-out all over tonight on this board (it's a compliment FROD).
So, you had no problem characterizing me as suspicious, with no evidence. That's truly unbelievable. Please do some fact-checking before you post your next unverified, unfounded, stupid, ill-mannered comment about me or anyone else. My goal, once again, is to alert everyone I can about the existence of Tranquility Bay and, if possible, put a quick stop to the very questionable treatment method being used by the former gas-station attendant running the place.
Actually Melissa, you're more silly, than you are disheveled!
Richard Titsch III
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Deborah:
Get used to it, Don't take it personally, if you're going to work for change in this industry. Ignore the attacks, or simply state your position (over and over and over) and let time show who you are and what your agenda is. As I have said before, having had contact with this industry it is common for one to possess skepticism (some call paranoia). Victims don't know who to trust.
FYI, you may get further attacked for this comment:
and then speaking to the very kind-hearted, now deceased Donna H. http://www.intrepidnetreporter.com)who asked me to investigate and write an article for her extremely laudable webnewspaper.
I can't imagine you don't know, but in case you don't, the new address for Intrepid is http://www.intrepidnetreporters.com (plural)
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As you may or may not know, Donna had a relationship with Sue of PURE. Sue rescued her website when WWASP jacked it after her death. For that, we all owe Sue thanks. The site is a treasure chest of information. But, you have just opened a can of worms and may be attacked as being a PUREist. Ignore the attacks, unless you have time to waste talking into a black hole.
Anyway, put on some armour and keep going. You're doing a great service for the youth that are in these programs and may save some kids the unpleasant experience in the future. I appreciate your efforts, and hope time does prove that you are who you say you are. I personally get a good feeling, but who knows, I've been duped before. We humans seem to have an inherent NEED to trust.
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RichTitsch:
Deb-
Thanks for your post and for the warning about my comments regards Donna.
Just for the record - anyone out there - my rapport with Donna H. had nothing to do with Sue S. After Donna passed-away, Sue called me in response to an email I sent to Donna (regretably, I wasn't aware of Donna's death.)
Not that I am suggesting there's anything wrong with Sue (I don't know her well enough and she's been pleasant the few times we talked); however, we are not fused. I am very proud, however, to have known Donna, and that should not be held against me or anyone else.
Deb, again I appreciate your post and the warning.
Rich
Anonymous:
Hey Rich, as a fellow legal beagle, I have had a chance to review the WWASPS v. PURE court case. Have you seen the docket on this one? If not, I would recommend you (or anyone else) do so. Some of the more recent motions are highly relevant to the current discussion (using the term loosely) at hand. Let me know your thoughts, if you care to share. Folks have already been encouraged to tune in to the PACER System for access to the full court record but I have yet to see any discussion on the merits of this case by either party. That's a shame IMHO, though perhaps Deborah is correct. People aren't interested in rational discourse or even debating an issue from a legal perspective.
RichTitsch:
Thanks Anon. I subscribe to PACER and I'll look tonight.
Someone has already called me on the phone and we spoke regards Melissa's comments (not Deb). Deb's right on me acquiring a "thick-skin"; however, I think people here can engage in serious discussion - we're doing it. You just gave me a great suggestion, and I'm following-up right away.
From my prospective, it should be easy to tell the white hats from the black, and the personal attack was more than unwarranted! I expect to be fighting the pro-wwaspers and some other loons, but not people pulling in the same direction as me.
Hope we talk again!
Rich
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