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Anonymous:
Does ISAC know or even care that PURE sanctions the use of transport agencies?  Their (ISAC's) website says they are opposed to this practice.  What gives? Why the double-speak?  Could it be ISAC is playing everybody for a fool?

 :flame:

Froderik:
Thank you Antigen for the link to PURE's site. Not having the time or desire to fully delve into the bowels of what this organization is about, I'll leave that up to those of you who do. But from what I can see, that is to say my first impression, this organization seems like a crock of shit. Just my 2¢; what do I know. I leave it up to the rest of you to prove me right or wrong on this one. But it seems fishy. I guess I have trust issues when it comes to things like this...  :lol:

[ This Message was edited by: Froderik13 on 2003-11-12 07:04 ]

Deborah:
Trust Issues?  OR healthy skepticism?

Trust is proven over time. I personally don't trust anyone who supports the warehousing of teens. I don't consider that an "issue", as in a personal flaw, or a position that may not be rational- my position based on the experience of 6 people who were incarcerated, and not one happy outcome, in fact one was killed. Programs and advocates would like parents and others to think they have an "issue" if they don't trust. Reminds me of how Ford Motor Co gives psych labels and sanctions to labor when they challenge management.

If a program showed that they did not censor mail and telephone calls; provided a public phone for residents use; did not deny visits for "therapeutic" reasons; did not limit calories, assign work detail, torture or restrain, or further isolate the teen for punishment; did not use BM techniques; accepted only teens who wanted to be there; etc., then they MIGHT deserve to be "trusted". Many things about the way the industry operates are not kosher, that warrants skepticism.

If one doesn't see it that way, I'd have to wonder if they are ignorant (in the true sense of the word) or supportive of the abusive tactics or have been brainwashed to blindly trust.

Froderik:
Right on. I'm with you, and thanks for the kind words. Of course, I was being facetious when I said I had trust issues...
Peace, FR13

Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2003-11-11 21:48:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Does ISAC know or even care that PURE sanctions the use of transport agencies?  Their (ISAC's) website says they are opposed to this practice.  What gives? Why the double-speak?  Could it be ISAC is playing everybody for a fool?



 :flame: "

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If they don't know, they must be trying hard not to. It's right on PURE's front page, after all. But they don't say anything about it.
The last struggles of a great superstition are very frequently the worst.
--Andrew Dickson
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