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Dr Gerald Davidson Was Jennifer's uncle?
Matt C. Hoffman:
Hi Ginger,
Oh I most certainly remember Jennifer. she got general meetings on a religious basis. She got the electric sauce laddled over here head . gottlieb had a thing for coming out sick on that poor girl . Jennifer was tall thin with light brown hair.
Yeah I was there when they thru her off the dock down by the lake. One particularly brutal gm they sauced her and Mary O' (those 2 sometimes hung out together) and wrapped them up in sheets just like mummies and had them lay on the dining room floor in this condition for hours, with the electric sause still on them encased. I also believe handcuffs were involved as well.
At one point they decided to (elan and henchmen) drug her into submission. she would stand around for hours and weeks in this severely drugged condition mouth agape , lips severely chapped and sometimes drooling. Now davidson was the only one that had the MD license and they were related ... go figure Blood is just so much thicker.
From the eyes of a !5 and a half year old kid who came from wickedly abusive childhood, it blew me away how the directors and joe sometimes would get the house all worked up into this bazarre mob mentiality frenzy and then they would bring in Jennifer and the mob would just unlesh its fury on this poor girl.
General meeting were always like that a weirdly directed mob frenzy mentality, it was frightening.
Jennifer was actually a nice person , if you ever sat down and talked with her. she was funny and articulate (of course when she was not drugged) she also played guitar and was a very sensitive person. I liked Jennifer.
Eventually she was thrown out of the house and that is another episode of violence and maybe some of the 4 plus men who took her back to chicago can relate , from the rumours that I have heard it was avery sick and brutal trip.
That was the last I saw or heard about Jennifer Stamler. I wonder how her life turned out , she was only about 18, she would be in her mid fifties now. The stuff that happened to Jennifer I will probably never forget, all in the guise of therapy.
Diane is right what elan and its henchmen did to that woman was simply criminal , elan should be shutdown and its henchmen kruglik, mccann,gottlieb and the wanna be director, the asssistant zaretski should in my opinion spend the rest of their natural lives in prison. ricci took the easy way out.
Matt
Anonymous:
Matt,
What year did this happen w/ Jennifer. This seems so familar. Nobody talked w/ Dr. Davidson, in all the time I was
there I never once had a conversation w/ him. I remember Mary O very well. This was all at Elan 3 when Jeff Gottlieb
was director there. I think Janet Ramos, Wendy, Neil, Ken Steer were staff. There was a full Coordinater there that ended up engaged to Ronnie Dir. 2a, what was her name. Ken Steer and Joy ? (she ended up pregnant in re-entry, Ken baby).
That place quickly got out of control from late 1973- on. Folks that came in prior really can't relate, I talked w/ someone that came to visit there back in '76 a friend of Jeff and Marty (can't remember his name). He said at that time how much
this place had changed, how violent it was here. How intakes were changing from drug addicts to more challenging cases of violence and emotional/mental issues and that Elan staff could not handle this. He particulary noticed the amount of violence the staff was allowed to use verbally and physically. He asked what I felt I could do to help, I remember just looking at him bewildered just totally powerless to do anything. He talked about what it was like when Elan first opened, most of the residents were older and drug addicted. He just wanted to get clean and not go back to prison.
Long way from there now, sometimes I ask myself what in gods name happened how did get so brutal. Joe and the cult, I
am really beginning to get this cult concept. I used to think yah and I believe in the boogey man, well if you give the boogey man enough power. He is real and intimidating.
:shamrock: :shamrock: .......Danny.....
Matt C. Hoffman:
Hey Danny.
I got to elan in the 9th of July !974. Jennifer abuse happened over the following 3 - 4 months I think she left in october could have been earlier or later.
Any one remember Chris Badger. He was the first cow boy kick ass that I witnessed . Type of gm where the victim gets bounced off of every wall of the house.. I saw his bruises. I saw the wall bow 4 inches inward and snap back in the expeditors office while he was being slammed on the other side in the dining room.
Janet Ramos very large hispanic woman she drove an opel dark blue or purple ... I think it was purple
Ronnie E had a girlfriend by the name of Pam T. if that is the one you are thinking of.
Wendy did her last name begin with an F. did she have very large hips and a small waist ...seriously not trying to be mean.
Ken Steer light brown or blonde hair
Did you know bob T . Tall indian from Michigan ?
when I left in july of 76 there was no football teams and Allen Frey was still in 6.
Sharon you are correct elan needs to be shutdown and its henchmen be put in prison for the rest of their natural lives.
I will post more about chris Badger gm ...it was sick. I just hope other people remember him. I also hope he survived what that hell hole did to him.
peace
Matt
Ursus:
There was question expressed in another thread re. Dr. Gerald E. Davidson's professional credentials and publications. I thought it more appropriate to respond in this here thread...
Originally posted on 12 Aug 2011:
--- Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan" ---
--- Quote from: "Ursus" ---
--- Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan" ---Two things about Gerald Davidson. One: Either Allenbach is a liar, or he was lied to, because if Davidson was on the faculty at Harvard he would be published many times. He's not. "Publish or Perish" is their motto.
The other is what I do see. He wouldn't be in HPM because he said publicly that Elan's therapy didn't work. That's why he split up with Joe. But here's the thing, in order to come to that conclusion, there had to be a test experiment to base it on. That sounds a lot like us :)
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Mmm. Hope you won't take this the wrong way, but... Allenbach is not a liar (at least in this respect).
Dr. Gerald E. Davidson was indeed, at one point, Instructor in the Dept. of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. Moreover, he also collaborated on a number of published scientific papers, with a variety of other professionals, usually on topics such as methadone treatment and patient anxiety, iirc.
Keep in mind that Davidson had responsibilities as a practicing clinician in addition to his academic ones, so the lack of umpteen hundreds of citations for a google of his name is to be expected. Davidson saw patients in area hospitals, and also ran and/or was associated with one or more clinics, e.g. that one in Chestnut Hill. Such professional endeavors would be expected to take up a certain percentage of one's time... eh? ;)
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His role at Harvard was the same as Elan. He was never there. I've found a grand total of 3 articles he's mentioned in, and none he's written. I asked my wife's brother to check him out, he graduated Harvard. He knows how to get information there better than any ofus.
How did Allenbach study under Davidson at Elan? The man was never there.
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Ursus:
--- Quote from: "Wayne Kernochan" ---His role at Harvard was the same as Elan. He was never there. I've found a grand total of 3 articles he's mentioned in, and none he's written. I asked my wife's brother to check him out, he graduated Harvard. He knows how to get information there better than any ofus.
How did Allenbach study under Davidson at Elan? The man was never there.
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Maybe ya got something a bit skewed or not fine-tuned enough re. your search parameters...
Mind you, this is in NO way an endorsement of Davidson or his involvement with or contribution to Elan on *my* part. I just think ya oughta give credit where credit is due, regardless of whether you agree with someone or not.
The fact is, Davidson did work at Harvard Medical School, and Davidson did publish. Here are a few of those publications, in mixed format, such as I was able to rustle up:
* JAMA. 1962;180(2):134-139. doi: 10.1001/jama.1962.03050150040008
Bodily Complaints and Other Symptoms of Depressive Reaction
Diagnosis and Significance in a Medical Clinic
1. John D. Stoeckle, M.D.;
2. Gerald E. Davidson, M.D.
[+] Author Affiliations
1. Boston
2. Associate in Medicine, Harvard Medical School, and Assistant Physician, Massachusetts General Hospital (Dr. Stoeckle); Assistant in Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School and Massachusetts General Hospital (Dr. Davidson).
Abstract
Medical clinic patients with "functional" bodily complaints were commonly found to have a depressive reaction. This reaction consists of bodily symptoms and disturbances in relations, both interpersonal (withdrawl, irritability, and resentment) and intrapersonal (depressed mood, loss of pleasure in usual activities, helplessness, and injured self-esteem). The diagnosis is made on the history of a traumatic event which the patient perceives as a loss, rather than on symptoms alone. Diagnosis is important because the bodily symptoms are commonly used as a reason for coming to the doctor, because care of the patient demands recognition of all aspects of his illness, and because rational treatment depends on it. Treatment involves several roles of the doctor and his explicit or implicit use of some psychotherapeutic techniques in his medical practice. Four case histories illustrate these principles.
* Associate in Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Assistant Physician, Massachusetts General Hospital.
† Assistant Sociologist, Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General Hospital.
* Communicating Aggrieved Feelings in the Patient's Initial Visit to a Medical Clinic
John D. Stoeckle and Gerald E. Davidson
Journal of Health and Human Behavior
Vol. 4, No. 3 (Autumn, 1963), pp. 199-206
(article consists of 8 pages)
Published by: American Sociological Association
* Journal of Chronic Diseases
Volume 16, Issue 9, September 1963, Pages 975-989
On going to see the doctor, the contributions of the patient to the decision to seek medical aid : A selective review
John D. Stoeckle M.D.*, Irving K. Zola Ph.D.† and Gerald E. Davidson M.D.†
Department of Medicine and Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, The Medical and Psychiatric Services, and the Medical Clinic, Massachusetts General Hospital, U.S.A.
Received 1 December 1962.
Available online 24 March 2004.
* Journal of Chronic Diseases
Volume 17, Issue 10, October 1964, Pages 959-970
The quantity and significance of psychological distress in medical patients: Some preliminary observations about the decision to seek medical aid
John D. Stoeckle M.D.*, å, Irying K. Zola Ph.D.†, å and Gerald E. Davidson M.D.‡, å
åDepartments of Medicine and Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School; Medical and Psychiatric Services, and Medical Clinic, Massachusetts General Hospital, U.S.A.
Received 24 November 1963.
Available online 25 March 2004.
Abstract
The percentage of patients coming to a medical clinic with psychological distress was measured by recording symptoms in two studies in the same clinic at different times. The clinical study and the sociological study gave similar results, i.e., over 80 per cent incidence. The different definitions, criteria and measures in previous studies of ‘psychiatric illness’ in medical patients, as well as their implications, are reviewed. Depression was common in the clinical study. Such distress was considered significant in the decision to seek medical aid because of expectations of help from the doctor. That this distress may be related to the decision to go to the doctor is illustrated by case reports. Further validation is suggested by prospective and field studies outside the clinic.
* Associate Physician, Massachusetts General Hospital, Associate in Medicine, Harvard Medical School.
† Assistant Sociologist, Massachusetts General Hospital, Assistant Professor of Sociology, Brandeis University.
* SOCIAL WORK IN A MEDICAL CLINIC: THE NATURE AND COURSE OF REFERRALS TO THE SOCIAL WORKER
John D. Stoeckle, M.D.; Ruth Sittler; and Gerald E. Davidson, M.D.
Am J Public Health, Sep 1966; 56: 1570 - 1579.
"Dr. Stoeckle is associate in medicine, Harvard Medical School, and associate physician, Massachusetts General Hospital (Boston, Mass. 02114). Miss Sittler is head, Social Service, Medical Clinic, Massachusetts General Hospital. Dr. Davidson is assistant in psychiatry, Harvard Medical School and Massachusetts General Hospital. (This paper was submitted for publication in May, 1965.)"
* Patterns of Drop-Outs from a Methadone Program for Narcotic Addicts
Substance Use & Misuse
1972, Vol. 7, No. 3 , Pages 415-425
Chaim M. Rosenberg1†, Gerald E. Davidson2 and Vernon D. Patch3
1Assistant Professor of Psychiatry
2Instructor in Psychiatry
3Assistant Professor of Psychiatry Harvard Medical School
†Correspondence: Chaim M. Rosenberg, Department of Psychiatry, Boston City Hospital, Harrison Avenue, Boston, Massachusetts, 02118
Fwiw, Davidson also participated/is mentioned in the following studies, presentations, and reports:
* NARCOTICS RESEARCH, REHABILITATION, AND TREATMENT HEARINGS
BEFORE THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON CRIME
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
NINETY-SECOND CONGRESS, FIRST SESSION (1971)
"Davidson, Dr. Gerald E., associate director, drug dependency clinic, Boston City Hospital, study entitled "Results of Preliminary Perse Study"....: 331"
* The Consumers Union Report on Licit and Illicit Drugs
Chapter 18. Methadone maintenance spreads
by Edward M. Brecher and the Editors of Consumer Reports Magazine, 1972
* U.S. Department of Justice
National Institute of Justice
Drugs and Crime — A Survey and Analysis of the Literature
Robert P. Gandossy, Jay R. Williams, Jo Cohen, Henrick J. Harwood
May 1980
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