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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2003-11-05 18:31:00, Deborah wrote:

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Theirrrrr Baaack.  :roll:



Just wanted to say that it doesn't appear that PURE referred Ian's mother to Skyline. If Brooke Adams article was accurate it stated that she was referred by an Ed Con in Austin, Tx.

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The point is that she might just as well have. She sent other kids there, right? Where else does she send them and what reason do I have to believe that PURE is any better than WWASP? Certainly if history is any instruction, they're not any more different than Straight was from The Seed or than WWASP is from CEDU or than Elan is from Daytop or than SAFE is from Straight.


The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are constitutional rights secure.
-- Albert Einstein
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Antigen:

--- Quote ---On 2003-11-05 19:19:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I had no idea how the program was working; I was just trained to sell like a good follower.

From Sue Scheff's "true story"
http://www.helpyourteens.com/true_story.html


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And this is different from what they're doing now, exactly how? Will someone please explain the difference?


All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William Kingdon Clifford
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Antigen:
That stuff doesn't strike me as hypocritical. I understand and deeply apreciate parents who come to their senses. Wes did it. My dad did it. I know there have been many of them, and thank God for them.

What strikes me as hypocritical are that they endourse escort services to kidnap unwilling young adults to force them into programs and that they attack and smear instead of engaging in open dialog just like some folks I used to know.

Which brings me to a question. How in the hell did we get from U.S. Representative George Miller, Senior Democrat on the Committee on Education and the Workforce, having sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft yesterday requesting a federal investigation into allegations of abuse by the WorldWide Association of Specialty Programs (WWASP) speculation about what Carey Bock is up to these days or what her diabolical motives might be?

What I see with my own little eyes is that Carey spotted this story and spread it, which does not seem like the sort of thing someone in the employ of WWASP is likely to do. Then I see a bunch of people jumping all over her case for it, completely derailing any meaningful conversation about this latest news.

So if anyone wants to talk about the news, I've reposted the article and the link to the Tico Times article here:
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... &forum=9&0

 
It really puzzles me to see Marijuana connected with Narcotics - Dope and all that crap?it's a thousand times better than whiskey - it's an Assistant - a friend.
Louis Armstrong
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Carey:

--- Quote ---I truthfully just wanted help for my child and thought for the money I was paying, it must be good."
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Did you not ask how your money was being spent to help your child?  Did you just assume that because it cost a lot it must be good?

If you support Sue, you are not trying to help kids.  You are mad because you spent a lot of money and are not satisfied with what you got for it.  If you support Sue then you suppor the industry and the inherent risk within.

Anonymous:
Yes !

Yes I do still think Craey is a hypocrtite.

How convient for you that Sue can easily be used as a scapegoat for your narrow ,limited presepective on the situation.

My child was mistreated by WWASP before I ever found Pure.   BEFORE.

Is that fact being missed here.

WWASP mistreated my child.

So easy for Carey to say we are disappointed because we spent money. Bull crap. That is not the issuse. You know it.

Save your Pure nonsense. Whatever you think you know about Pure is secondary to Carey being a snitch (probably for money).

What goes around comes around they say.

My expeierence of you,you are extremly shallow.
To defend a snitch is unconscionable to me. No excuse ever.

Where I grew up snitches were taken to the back alley beat up and dumped in the ocean for fish food.

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