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PTSD : POST TRAUMATIC SEED DISORDER
GregFL:
Thanks for the belated reply anon, and Ginger is absolutely correct, no one here cares about your spelling.
I find your responses very interesting. When I have some time I will respond in more depth. Kind of busy at work right now.
Thought that is silenced is always rebellious. Majorities, of course, are often mistaken. This is why the silencing of minorities is necessarily dangerous. Criticism and dissent are the indispensable antidote to major delusions.
-- ALAN BARTH, The Loyalty of Free Men, 1951.
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[ This Message was edited by: GregFL on 2003-11-11 06:04 ]
LeighBright:
Pro or con - I'm looking for people who are willing to discuss their Seed experiences with me! I use first names only - and have fun creating new names for those of you who are unwilling to give your real names. Shoot, you don't even have to tell me your real name!!
And for that particular someone who told me to "call when you tell me to" - I did call, when you said - repeatedly, in fact, and I left my number. Any time you want to try and coordinate with me, I'm still wanting to interview you! (You know who you are and you better get in touch with me!). [Please!]. :roll:
And for the really paranoid: PO Box 534, Bristow, VA 20136. You can be as anonymous as you want and say what you want!
But I still need more Seed people!! PLEASE people! You chat on these boards - why not chat with me? I WON'T expose you. I only want to tell your story - pro or con - life saved or life destroyed - I ask the questions and you answer. No hassle, no argument, no judgement, no fight. I ask, you give your opinion, your feelings, your thoughts and I listen. C'mon! What's so hard about that? Give me a chance. If you don't like it, you can always hang up!
Anonymous:
I can,t imagine that you would find many people who truly feel in their hearts what art and his thugs have done was right. I truly feel that they did nothing but distroy families and many lives. art and his followers thought he was God. truth is just the complete opposite. They have destroyed so many futures. I feel so sad for anyone who experienced the brain washing and manipulation that has gone on and still probaly continues to this day. many seedling have sacraficed getting married and having children for this perverted power king. this is so sad. many will never know what they have missed. art is a criminal. i was in the seed for a short period and met my husband there. we had a son and moved to florida so my husband could return to the seed. art controlled every bit of our lives even after my husband graduated the program. i was not in the program but aloud them to manipulate us. we needed to ask permission to visit home. it finally ended after five years of torture when i got pregnat with my second child. art and libby wanted me to abort. there was no way. they tried everything to get me to abort.
we moved back to cleveland. i became a nurse and ended up having four great children. my oldest 21. and my child to be aborted is now a beautiful 16 yr old honor roll student, cheerleader, socker player, in nursing vocation with many goals set ahead of her. libby she just wasnt a little piece of jelly that should have been aborted. you and art should have been aborted and it would have saved a lot of pain in peoples live. i cant believe art is still living. he should have gotten the electric chair a long time ago.
GregFL:
unbelievable story, and welcome to our site. Many people who were in the Seed do not realize the huge cultic pressures that the "inner circle" people were under. Many people went in, graduated and promptly never thought about what was really going on. Those like you that had Art and his croonies controlling your day to day lives really understand that the Seed was a viscious cult, and little more.
Any Irishman who doubts the reality of selective enforcement ought to take just a moment to comtemplate the etymology of the term "paddy waggon".
--Antigen
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Anonymous:
i always had arts number. it is very difficult to fight off your family when your under age. When the jim jone massacre happened i thought of art immediately. you know we always drank the koolaid. waco texas, the seed, all the same. art indirectly took a lot of our lives. im pretty much recovered from the damage that they caused. ive gone on. my heart goes out to those who are still being victimized, the families that have vanished due to art and massive ego. powerless we all were made to make him think in his head he was so powerful. he can fool some of the people sometimes but he cant fool everyone.
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