Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Elan School
A society within a society...
Antigen:
Matt, remember the story you told me about Ken and the drunk guy at the police station? Same scam. "What, me? I didn't do anything!"
It's so hard to prove in legal terms, as it should be. Can you even imagine the mess we'd all be in if anyone could just lay the blame for their own actions on anybody without proof?
That's why this little problem of ours is best solved in the court of public opinion. I think some lawsuits and criminal charges will probably grow out of the effort at some point. But they can't possibly go far enough against the right targets. People have just got to begin to understand the scam so they'll see it coming. And that can only happen completely enough through art and dialog.
Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and climb a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean.
-- John Muir
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Anonymous:
Ginger
I understand what you are saying . And that story about kenny is not fiction. It came straight out of his mouth and as a result made me realize at such a young age that elan would do anything to protect itself as well as to how dark and diabolical it is .
It just doesn't wash with me that these directors are not culpable and the lawyers that defend it in my opinion should also be disbarred.
I do understand that the more people that can see it for what it is (my opinion)a waste of parents hard earned money for what is offered by that place ,and in the long run there will be death to it thru attrition.
In my heart though I truly want those freaks to pay ,either by going to prison and losing all monies to the point that they need to wear barrels cause they can't afford clothes .
you see in a court of public opinion they have had their chance to say that they are sorry and is there anything that they can do to help us . they should be begging for our forgivness for their abusive actions .
did they do this ? no because they are ,in my opinion ,gutless child abusing cowards .Who have the gall to grin .
And they have had plenty of time have come clean and admit their guilt. Well the time is up and elan and its henchmen are going to reap what they sowed all those years ago. (which is pain)
It is time for them to face the music . I also want to state again that i stand behind every post that I have ever written on anyboard about elan . As sick as some of those post have been it is the truth .
One other thing it is sad that davidson and ricci are dead .I wish they were alive to see and hear what we survivours think about them and their abusive thing called elan .
respectfully
Matt
Matt C. Hoffman:
the afore written post is mine .I must have been bumped off and did not realize that it also signed me off
dang computers
matt
Anonymous:
I felt the same way when I saw there faces after so many years.My stomack was sick and I felt shaky they are sick twisted men.
Antigen:
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"Ginger
I understand what you are saying . And that story about kenny is not fiction. It came straight out of his mouth and as a result made me realize at such a young age that elan would do anything to protect itself as well as to how dark and diabolical it is .
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Oh, please don't get me wrong! I believe you. Not only because I've known you to be extremely consistent, thoughtful and reliable but because I've seen program ppl pull essentially the same shit w/ other people. Not quite so sick as talking someone into suicide by cop, mind you. That's beyond the pale even for the most sadistic among them. But the same scam all the same.
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It just doesn't wash with me that these directors are not culpable and the lawyers that defend it in my opinion should also be disbarred.
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Agreed
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I do understand that the more people that can see it for what it is (my opinion)a waste of parents hard earned money for what is offered by that place ,and in the long run there will be death to it thru attrition.
In my heart though I truly want those freaks to pay ,either by going to prison and losing all monies to the point that they need to wear barrels cause they can't afford clothes .
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I think those and other just deserts might be natural consequences of their own actions if we can just blow away the false legitimacy they hide behind. How many former Elan students have been able to shake it off and go on to successful careers in all kinds of professions? Is there a lawyer in the house? Indeed, there is. Let's put out the call. How about a film maker? A few journalists? Hell, even a stand up comic could do some good here. Ever hear Jello Biafra go off on the teen help industry?
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you see in a court of public opinion they have had their chance to say that they are sorry and is there anything that they can do to help us . they should be begging for our forgivness for their abusive actions .
did they do this ? no because they are ,in my opinion ,gutless child abusing cowards .Who have the gall to grin .
And they have had plenty of time have come clean and admit their guilt. Well the time is up and elan and its henchmen are going to reap what they sowed all those years ago. (which is pain)
It is time for them to face the music . I also want to state again that i stand behind every post that I have ever written on anyboard about elan . As sick as some of those post have been it is the truth .
One other thing it is sad that davidson and ricci are dead .I wish they were alive to see and hear what we survivours think about them and their abusive thing called elan .
respectfully
Matt
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Mad love for you, Matt, and the utmost respect. I wasn't talking to you about the exageration. I don't think I've ever seen you join in the prank posting at all. I was talking to those who do.
And, btw, I get it. It's just fun giving back just a little bit of what they dish out and knowing they can't do a damned thing about it. But now that there's another chance to get some serious action going, I think it's time to put away the fun and games and get serious. Just my .02
for it is a truth, which the experience of all ages has attested, that the people are commonly most in danger when the means of insuring their rights are in the possession of those of whom they entertain the least suspicion.
--Alexander Hamilton
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