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RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION
« on: January 15, 2011, 03:11:03 PM »
http://http://www.advanc-ed.org/oasis2/u/par/accreditation/summary?institutionId=37703

Go to: “Executive Summary” for full doument.  It is enlightening to say the least.

Once again, RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL just like it’s days as Hidden Lake Academy is accredited to teach students with every anomaly known to man with no certified Special Ed. Teacher, no Science Lab., etc.  

SACS/Advanced Ed. issues guidelines for schools to follow, the guidelines are preferences, not written in stone.

Excerpt from document dated 2010, showing 100 children.

"Ridge Creek School students come from all over the country and from abroad; therefore, the RCS community extends well beyond the
local campus. In 2010, RCS served students and families from twenty-two states, and two countries. Eight three (83%) of students are
male. Students' ages range from 12-17 years (grades 7-12) at enrollment; the average age of students at RCS upon enrollment is 16.5
years. Students are typically from Protestant, Catholic or Jewish backgrounds; however, other faiths are also represented. Many
students come from divorced (45%), single parent 925%), or adoptive (25%) families. While many referrals are through educational
consultants, other sources of referral include the internet and parents of current and former students. Sexty-five percent of students
have had prior counseling; (25% have been hospitalized at least once and 30% have attended a wilderness program prior to
Ridge Creek School
Page 3
©2010 AdvancED http://www.advanc-ed.org
enrollment.  **** Though students tend to represent financially affluent families, 35% receive financial assistance.
RCS students tend to fit into the broad category of Oppositional defiant Disorder; however, many students also have other idagnoses,
such as Anxiety Disorder, ADHD'ADD, Major Depression, or other Mood Disorders. approximately 20% of RCS students have been
diagnosed with a learning disability and require special education services. Typical student issues and behaviors include:
- Defiance or parental and/or other adult authority
- Poor or declining school performance
- Depression and/or sucidal ideations
- Inappropriate expression of anger
- Promiscuity
- Runaway attempts/episodes
- Alcohol and/or drug abuse
- Self-destructive behaviors (e.g. eating disorder, self harm)
In RCS' professional staff-to-student ratio of 1:1, all counseling and academic faculty is consistently employed on a full-time basis.
Advance degrees are held by 67% of the academic staff, 100% of the counseling staff, and 93% of the administrative management
staff. As with RCS students, staff too comes from all over the United States,a s well as internationally to provide a culturally diverse
campus."
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2011, 03:17:16 PM »
Now that's funny!  What do they say when you tell them the entire page is a blatant lie?  Even the DHS reports cited them for dangerous understaffing and not training employees.  When the kid got his head kicked in there was one staff guarding 29 residents. 1 to 1 ratio...not exactly.
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2011, 03:29:15 PM »
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"

Once again, RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL just like it’s days as Hidden Lake Academy is accredited to teach students with every anomaly known to man with no certified Special Ed. Teacher, no Chem. Lab., etc.  

Dysfunction Junction had pointed out earlier that the school is in the process of hiring a Certified Special Education Teacher so that problem should be resolved in short order, but as far as a Chem.Lab, is this a requirement for becoming accredited?  I did not see this listed as a requirement anywhere.



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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2011, 04:33:18 PM »
Jill, howcan SACCS accredit a corporation that in no way is defined as a school by the state in which it operates?  Can they accredit KFC or Walmart?  Where is the accountability?
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2011, 04:39:04 PM »
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Jill, howcan SACCS accredit a corporation that in no way is defined as a school by the state in which it operates?  Can they accredit KFC or Walmart?  Where is the accountability?

Thats a good point, DJ, Ridge Creek School must be a school then.  I think you settled this for the readers.  



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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2011, 04:49:52 PM »
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Ridge Creek School is not recognized by the state of Georgia as a private school nor is it considered licensed by the state as a school; it is considered a child caring institution. Parents need to know this so they can make an informed decision before placing their child there. The fact that RCS is permitted to call itself a "school" is very questionable to me.

RCS is not considered a "Private" school:
http://public.doe.k12.ga.us/ci_exceptio ... ateSchools

RCS is not considered a "Private" school by GAPSAC:
http://www.gapsac.org/index.php?option= ... 4&Itemid=3

RCS is not considered a "Public" school:
http://lumpkincounty.schoolinsites.com/?PN=Schools2

RCS is not considered a "Charter" school:
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_charter.aspx

RCS is not considered a "State" school:
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_stateschools.aspx

Find " State Certified" teachers:
http://www.gapsc.com/

I don't think so, Whooter.  Georgia says they aren't.
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2011, 05:22:35 PM »
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Ridge Creek School SACS Accreditation

Once again, RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL just like it’s days as Hidden Lake Academy is accredited to teach students ...

Thanks for the information Jill.



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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2011, 06:43:14 PM »
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Jill, howcan SACCS accredit a corporation that in no way is defined as a school by the state in which it operates?  Can they accredit KFC or Walmart?  Where is the accountability?

In name only.  RCS is registered and licensed as a CCF( Child Caring Facility) and/or CCI(Child Caring Institution). It is not a school according to the State of Georgia.  RCS operates offering education within it licensed Child Care Facility, just as the Department of Juvenile Corrections offers education courses for GED's and Continuing Ed.

HLA lost it's SACS accreditation as it lost it's 501 C-3 status way back.  Apparently with RCS, it has been renewed until June or July 2011.

The Deparment of Juvenile Justice has addressed going for dual certification within the Department of Corrections re: Education Department with SACS.
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2011, 06:51:45 PM »
Quote from: "Whooter"
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"

Once again, RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL just like it’s days as Hidden Lake Academy is accredited to teach students with every anomaly known to man with no certified Special Ed. Teacher, no Chem. Lab., etc.  

Dysfunction Junction had pointed out earlier that the school is in the process of hiring a Certified Special Education Teacher so that problem should be resolved in short order, but as far as a Chem.Lab, is this a requirement for becoming accredited?  I did not see this listed as a requirement anywhere.



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Correction:  I should have written " SCIENCE LAB" which according to Dr. Judy Flatt( now former Assoc. Director at SACSCASSI ) listed requirements for credit in Biology and Chemistry, a science lab is required.  AGAIN, no mobile lab was ever purchased and no science lab exists or ever existed.  The Fire Marshall states that special building codes have to be in place for a science lab and the building housing the classrooms were not up to code to allow a science lab.  One can find these directives and they have been published on Fornits - check the archives or go to sacscassi web-site.
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2011, 07:08:33 PM »
Ridge Creek has been operating without a certified Special Ed. teacher?  Hidden Lake Academy revisited?  Offering special education for what they have determined to be, in RCS Director Mull's own words, " approximately 20% of RCS students have been diagnosed with a learning disability and require special education services."

That's brilliant.  Hire in a hurry, so that all is in place for the SACS accreditation review coming this year.  Be sure to request ones' colleagues review the school and be sure not to mention a conflict of interest.  Also, be sure the new spec. ed. teacher does not declare when they started their illustrious career at RCS.  Just so the reviewers don't catch on that there might have been cross uitization of teachers outside their field, without SACS required approval.   Apparently, a lot of staff are wearing quite a few hats, although not certified to teach in their field. Wine the reviewers and dine them in the office as was the case when the place was Hidden Lake Academy, so that they never take the tour and realize there is no science lab.  Or, perhaps one could interject the mobile lab has gone in for repairs.
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2011, 07:12:33 PM »
I think it all comes down to the wording, Jill.  The people here on fornits recognize it as a school as we see the thread headers and forums names (vs. calling it Ridge Creek, inc.).  The Ridge Creek School is accredited to teach students and is receiving oversight from the state.  The kids get an education at RCS and move on to college receiving scholarships etc.  so they are recognized by the state as a school otherwise they would not have been accredited.



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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2011, 08:45:43 PM »
Guest3 wrote:
Ridge Creek School is not recognized by the state of Georgia as a private school nor is it considered licensed by the state as a school; it is considered a child caring institution. Parents need to know this so they can make an informed decision before placing their child there. The fact that RCS is permitted to call itself a "school" is very questionable to me.

RCS is not considered a "Private" school:
http://public.doe.k12.ga.us/ci_exceptio ... ateSchools

RCS is not considered a "Private" school by GAPSAC:
http://www.gapsac.org/index.php?option= ... 4&Itemid=3

RCS is not considered a "Public" school:
http://lumpkincounty.schoolinsites.com/?PN=Schools2

RCS is not considered a "Charter" school:
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_charter.aspx

RCS is not considered a "State" school:
http://www.doe.k12.ga.us/pea_stateschools.aspx

Find " State Certified" teachers:
http://www.gapsc.com/"

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Ridge Creek School is a "Child Caring Institution" recognized as such by the State of Georgia with an educational program in effect that is currently SACS certified.  SACS, again certifies many adjunct programs such as one  promoted by the Department of Corrections.  RCS was afforded  Stimulus funds as a "Child Caring Institution,"  grant status deemed through  DJJ , not as a public or private school.  A private  Child Care facility (CCF), a private Child Care Institution(CCI).
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2011, 08:51:02 PM »
Quote from: "Jill Ryan"
Guest3 wrote:
Ridge Creek School is not recognized by the state of Georgia as a private school nor is it considered licensed by the state as a school; it is considered a child caring institution. Parents need to know this so they can make an informed decision before placing their child there. The fact that RCS is permitted to call itself a "school" is very questionable to me.

Why does it bother you that they call themselves a school?  I dont see why this is misleading?



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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2011, 09:07:35 PM »
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Ridge Creek School SACS Accreditation

Once again, RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL just like it’s days as Hidden Lake Academy is accredited to teach students ...

Thanks for the information Jill.

NO JILL RYAN WROTE:

"Once again, RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL just like it’s days as Hidden Lake Academy is accredited to teach students with every anomaly known to man with no certified Special Ed. Teacher, no Science Lab.(edited), etc".


I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF ONE IS TO QUOTE MY WRITTEN WORD, IT IS DONE IN IT'S ENTIRETY, OTHERWISE THE WRITTEN WORD IS SKEWED AND NOT REPOSTED AS IT WAS INTENDED. THANKS.
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Re: RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL SACS ACCREDITATION STILL A JOKE
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2011, 09:24:24 PM »
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Quote from: "Jill Ryan"
Ridge Creek School SACS Accreditation

Once again, RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL just like it’s days as Hidden Lake Academy is accredited to teach students ...

Thanks for the information Jill.

NO JILL RYAN WROTE:

"Once again, RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL just like it’s days as Hidden Lake Academy is accredited to teach students with every anomaly known to man with no certified Special Ed. Teacher, no Science Lab.(edited), etc".


I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF ONE IS TO QUOTE MY WRITTEN WORD, IT IS DONE IN IT'S ENTIRETY, OTHERWISE THE WRITTEN WORD IS SKEWED AND NOT REPOSTED AS IT WAS INTENDED. THANKS.


I think if you would speak to people and have a conversation then we would not have to dissect the few words that you place out here.  I ask you questions all the time and you just avoid having a discussion or sharing your thoughts so I try to figure out the response on my own.

Many states do not have categories for therapeutic Boarding schools within their definitions.  The kids do not spend 4 years there and many times the kids do not have IEPs so they dont need to be special education.  They have kids on medication but they dont meet the needs of a hospital setting requiring expensive ramps and emergency entrances and medical personnel.  The schools do not fit the definition of charter schools because they dont all give out diplomas or teach a course on the history of Georgia because many of the kids are not from Georgia and this course would not be transferable back to their home state......they cant be religious schools because they dont teach religion etc. etc.... its a temporary situation....but they have teenagers there and they hire teachers to teach them during the day.  The schools try to get certification thru the state even though they dont fit into a category as defined by them.

If they house high school kids and they teach them high school subjects by qualified teachers then why not call themselves a school?  The parents of the kids know that the kids are not going there for 4 years and understand the challenges so why do you have a problem with it?  



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