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This is interesting.

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FaceKhan:
Basically my view on the matter is that the industry should simply be banned, if they want to treat children for psycological problems, let them go get their PHD in psychology or go to medical school.

What do these program owners really want, they want to make money, a lot of it. What do the program staff want, they want a job and if they try real hard they can convince themselves that they are making the best of a bad situation. Sounds more like the foundation of a concentration camp than a hospital.

If they were doing this for free instead of profiting from it at least their motives would be commendable.

All these programs are frauds, the industry is a fraud and while a good short-term goal would be to seperate the frauds from the abusers, over the long term this industry must be recognized as a sham that has no place in American society.

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[ This Message was edited by: FaceKhan on 2003-10-22 13:00 ]

Carey:
I agree with you FaceKhan, 100%.

Antigen:

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One more thing to remember Ginger, and that is, Jeff endorses Sue and the programs she promotes.

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Yeah, I'm starting to realize this, finally. Initially, all I knew was that he was doing a good job of exposing WWASP programs. I didn't realize till now that he seems to be operating under the illusion that it's OK to break young minds, so long as you don't leave a lot of physical evidence.

Face, I disagree with the premis that the profit motive is either all of what drives these people or that, in itself, it's evidence of malfeasance.

I, myself, want to make lots and lots of money. I don't want to take it from someone else through force or fraud. I abhor the practice of getting wealthy by victimizing others. I want to get very wealthy by giving good service and advice to my customers and then by investing my profits in a way that makes things a little better for my community. I have my eye on a really nice old abandoned brick school house in a bad part of town right now. Hopefully, but the time I have the spare cash or credit to buy the property, I'll have an idea how to make it at least self sustaining, hopfully profitable too.

In fact, if I had the money right now, I'd buy up half this town before the 'community revitalization' and 'urban blight' grant writers take the bulldozer to what's left of it. But, alas, it's not easy getting rich in the regulated economy that the "Greatest Generation" has left to us.

But back to motivs. Face, I grew up in this culture. Almost my entire childhood is steeped in the ritual and philosophy of the Program. We were going to save the world from the evil, corrupting 'druggie' culture. It was a sincere, if lunatic, higher purpose, not just a cover story.

That is what drives these people. It's such a holy high purpose that they are drunk on it and blind to the harm they do. When a kid who comes in just a little rebellious and leaves out the other end suicidal, they say "See? We told you that kid had big problems. If only he'd worked the program..." And they believe it.

This doesn't make it true and it doesn't excuse any of it, not a bit. All God's children are given a degree of discernment and concience. They choose to quell their nagging conciences with the intoxication of their holy higher purpose. That's unforgivable, in my opinion. Doesn't the Bible say somewhere that there's a special place in Hell for those who lead other astray?

But if you're looking to seperate the evil, bad, complicit people from the hapless innocent victims, you've got your work cut out for you. I've puzzled over that one for years and come to the conclusion that no one can make that distinction.

At the bottom of it, the apologia for forcing kids into behavior modification is the presumption on the part of the parents, program people and, to a large degree, all of 'establishment' that their deviance from things like compulsory school attendance, accepted drug use, accepted sexual practice and so forth is always bad and evil, never good and innovative. For all the harm they do to their own children and families in pursuit of squashing all that they see as evil, they also seek to destroy all innovation and evolution in future generations of their own line.

But that's what you get for playing God.


...it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds..

--Samuel Adams
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Deborah:
There are hurtful and helpful people with psych degrees. As I've said before, the majority of the staff at the facility my son spent 20 months were degreed and the program had most of the same abuses. Perhaps more so-called "therapy".

Ultimately the problem is the misuse and abuse of BM- too heavy on punishment. Isolation from the outside world, restricted communication with parents and family, limited calories for punishment, no privacy or identity, black and white rules, heavy consequences that don't match the "crime", forced "therapy", fear inducing "motivation"....
Unless they had a different text book than I did, they know this is hurtful but do it anyway.

Another concern is that parents may put more trust in degreed individuals who are subjecting teens to the very same abuses, and charging more for their "services". Licensing officials and courts hold them in high esteem as well- try going up against them in court once they have their grubby hands on your kid!!

I think they are definitely profit motivated. Actually, they have their cake and eat it too. Condition the next generation AND make tons of money.

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